[hackpgh-discuss] Re: launch model rocket to 120k feet, hack pgh project?

From: Alex Reasinger <alexreasinger@xxxxxxxxx>
To: hackpgh-discuss <hackpgh-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2015 22:58:40 -0500
I contacted the rocket club spectators are welcome.
He says that the winter launches can be hit or miss due to the weather. he
will let me know if it is cancelled, and that he will be sure to bring a
couple of high power models to fly.
So who is interested in going to the launch on Jan 18th at 12:00
I figure we can meet at the shop before hand and car pool up.it would be
about a 1 hour drive from the shop.

Alex


On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Chad Elish <chadisrad@xxxxxx> wrote:

> That would be a fun trip!
>
>
> -Chad
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 20, 2014, at 21:15, Alex Reasinger <alexreasinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> you can count me in.
>
> On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 8:27 PM, Greg Land <landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> +1 to this idea.
>> On Dec 20, 2014 1:40 PM, "Alex Reasinger" <alexreasinger@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It looks like there next launch day is January 18th. I looked it up last
>>> night it is only a 1hr drive from hackPGH. We should contact them and see
>>> about heading up to watch. We could carpool there.
>>> On Dec 20, 2014 11:15 AM, "Robert Berger" <bob@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That club has an FAA waiver to 8700 feet, on a farm near Grove City.
>>>>
>>>> I'd be interested in building tracking and video transmitters.
>>>>
>>>> - Bob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 3:13 PM, Greg Land <landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Here is the local NAR club.  I use to be a member of the 503 back in
>>>> Lancaster.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.nar.org/local_club/pittsburgh-space-command-psc-473/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Greg Land <landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> While I can not speak for the board I simply I see no problem with
>>>>> working on rockets in the shop. I would say a policy like this would be
>>>>> reasonable.  Leave the motors at home and only bring them out for launch
>>>>> days and don't bring them to the shop.  If you need to do work that
>>>>> requires a motor for sizing reasons bring an expended motor or an empty
>>>>> reusable casing with no propellant.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Greg Land <landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NAR certifications let you buy bigger motors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nar.org/high-power-rocketry-info/level-1-hpr-certification/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    - Level 1 allows the purchase and use of H and I impulse class
>>>>>>    motors; solid and hybrid. Certain F and G motors may also require 
>>>>>> Level 1
>>>>>>    certification for purchase and use.
>>>>>>    - Level 2 allows the purchase and use of J, K, and L impulse
>>>>>>    class motors; solid and hybrid.
>>>>>>    - Level 3 certification allows the purchase and use of M, N, and
>>>>>>    O impulse class rocket motors; solid and hybrid.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.nar.org/join-nar/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New members of the NAR can get regular membership benefits:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. 6 issues of the 56-page color Sport Rocketry magazine
>>>>>>    2. A 60-page how-to book on all aspects of rocketry, the NAR
>>>>>>    Member Guidebook
>>>>>>    3. $2 million rocket flight liability insurance
>>>>>>    4. Access to NAR technical reports, high-power certification, and
>>>>>>    clubs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Annual Membership Fees
>>>>>> *Membership: SR (Age 26 and older) Join - 1 Year ($62) - Regular
>>>>>> Magazine
>>>>>>  SR (Age 21-25) Join - 1 Year ($25) - Regular Magazine
>>>>>>  SR (26 and Older) Join - 1 Year ($79) - Magazine First Class
>>>>>>  SR - (26 and Older) - Join 1 year ($50) - FAMILY (must have Family
>>>>>> member who already receiving Magazine)
>>>>>>  SR (26 and Older) Join - 3 years ($180) - Regular Magazine
>>>>>>  SR (21 and Older) CANADA/MEXICO - Join 1 Year ($77) - Magazine
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>>>>>>  LR (Age 16-20) Join 1 Year ($13) - FAMILY (must have a Family
>>>>>> member already receiving Magazine)
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>>>>>> Shipping
>>>>>>  JR (Ages 15 and under) Join 1 Year ($13) - FAMILY (must have a
>>>>>> Family member already receiving Magazine)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Alex Reasinger <
>>>>>> alexreasinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We could start with the f & g then and see if we want to go beyond
>>>>>>> that. What would we be looking at for insurance, and what does it take 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get a NAR certification and what does it get you?
>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 2:48 PM, "Greg Land" <landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Biggest you can do before you start running into problems is f and
>>>>>>>> g motors produced by aerotec
>>>>>>>> After that it's insurance and space that become a problem.  You
>>>>>>>> can't by anything else without a NAR certification
>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 2:45 PM, "Greg Land" <landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's not about viable.  It is totally and completely doable.  I've
>>>>>>>>> done it. Its a blast and I recommend going after it.  Just know it 
>>>>>>>>> isn't a
>>>>>>>>> hey let's go to 120k feet kind of thing.  It's a multi year project 
>>>>>>>>> so you
>>>>>>>>> just have to be in for the long haul.  As I said I am willing to 
>>>>>>>>> mentor
>>>>>>>>> anyone who is interested in rocketry I just don't have a lifestyle yo
>>>>>>>>> support doing it myself anymore sadly.
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 2:41 PM, "Yevgeniy Soroka" <ukranians2@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not sure how realistic this is. Greg has good points about
>>>>>>>>>> why its not viable. Then again I'm sure Gabe knows a guy who knows a 
>>>>>>>>>> guy.
>>>>>>>>>> And probably has half the required equipment in his basement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Alex Reasinger <
>>>>>>>>>> alexreasinger@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would be interested in getting involved. I have always wanted
>>>>>>>>>>> to try out high powered rocketry.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 2:37 PM, "Yevgeniy Soroka" <ukranians2@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dont bring reality into this Greg! :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Greg Land <
>>>>>>>>>>>> landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yep we would also need about 120k feet of uninhabited area to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> launch it in.  As well as a waver from the FAA.  Also one of us 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> would have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to get a low explosives user permit from the ATF to be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> much propellent.  So one of us would have to give up our right to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unreasonable search and be willing to let the ATF search there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> home
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whenever the ATF wanted to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 1:54 PM, "Yevgeniy Soroka" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ukranians2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I still say we should think about this, because its totally
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> badass. Discussion for UAV club.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Greg Land <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> landjgregory@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also you would need someone with a level 3 NAR
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certification.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 1:52 PM, wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Money. Time.  Time + Money
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use to do rocket contests and just like the big boys its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the propellent that kill the wallet not the rocket itself.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2014 10:16 AM, "Yevgeniy Soroka" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ukranians2@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The balloon is cool, but what would it take for us to do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this? Besides sign 100 government forms giving us permission.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQw_C5KLhFM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Geno
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
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