[geocentrism] Re: excuse my paranoia

  • From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:11:19 +1000

I don't understand your comment below. Your sure its a viable alternative? It's 
not a viable alternative! If it were there would be no point in discussing it!

Jack 
Dear jack. 

If you re-read me correctly, you can see that it is viable as an alternative 
for scientific discussion. This does not mean it happened that way. We believe 
it didn't. 

I say the exact same thing as regards the heliocentrism debate, although the 
potential of proving our aether involvement in matter is still also a viable 
alternative for geocentrism. 

As a means of converting a scientist or any ordinary person with reasonable 
intelligence, in to accepting the word of God as true, then I agree most 
definitely there is no point in the discussion. Both sides of the evolution 
debate are theoretical and as such, and only for that reason, worthy of 
discussion. 

Let me offer an example to clear up my meaning and use of viable alternative. 

In faith we believe that Lazarus was truely dead and that the body was already 
corrupting, when jesus brought him back to life. 

A viable alternative for discussion is that Lazarus was merely in a coma, a 
hypnotic state known as ...... where the vital signs are near zero, and he only 
appears to be dead. 

This is a viable alternative because it is a theoretical probability in science 
and happens reasonably often.

Given that we can produce no direct provable evidence of this event, it cannot 
be used as proof that God exists, or that the Bible is His word.  

Therefore, indeed from a scientific point of view it is a pointless discussion 
if your motive or objective is to prove God raised Lazarus from the dead, or 
that there is a God. 

You, and everybody else apparently, have consistently avoided my challenge that 
God , by His own word, created an old or aged world. This validates the 
evolutionists and Pauls claim of an aged world beyond 10,000 years. That their 
speculations on this age may be varied and possibly erroneous has no bearing on 
the fact that it is or was much older than the nominal 7,000 years given at 
creation. 

To prove creation, you need to prove the existence of God first, and finding 
"speculative flaws" in evolution, which the science admits is part and parcel 
of the learning process of science, is definitely not the way to go about that. 
 

Philip. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jack Lewis 
  To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:50 PM
  Subject: [geocentrism] Re: excuse my paranoia


  Dear Philip,
  Of course I'm biased, but not against true science.

  I don't understand your comment below. Your sure its a viable alternative? 
It's not a viable alternative! If it were there would be no point in discussing 
it!

  Jack 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: philip madsen 
    To: geocentrism list 
    Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2007 9:50 AM
    Subject: [geocentrism] Re: excuse my paranoia


    Not me. I am absolutely certain that evolution is a viable alternative as 
to how we arrived today. I just happen to know with certainty that it did not 
happen that way, and that the world has existed no more than 10,000 years and 
probably less. 



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