I wan't trying to trap you, tricking you into saying something you don't believe doesn't prove anything. The question came from a discussion about whether or not the heliocentric model is inconsistent so I took it as read that we were talking about what conventioinal physics says the axis of rotatioin is. Regards, Mike. Of course, sorry but the LOL should have told you I was being tongue in cheeky.....I nearly alwys talk with convention. It saves confusion....You know, current flows from + to - and all that..... I was un serious, because it would be obvious to expect the convention to be that the world spins on its geographical axis...which is a fixture, till we tumble again I spose.....The geographical axis is a geographical line a mapping line. It would remain constant even if the world tipped over 180degrees. I would expect us to talk about a rotational axis the axis around which we rotate. Now isn't there a theory out in the hills at the moment that the new rapid shift in the magnet poles is indicative of another polar reversal.....Geo-magnetic survey dpt. Canada... Questions, is this a pure polarity change, caused by external forces or a physical magnet (core) shift. If the later, then I don't wanna be around on the surface.....Just joking...and its morning too, but the serious reality is that the big magnet outside and near us called the sun is going through some terrible trauma lately, the 11 .xx years sunspot cycle is distorting, There is another one for Neville, who does not believe that SOHO is in orbit close to the sun sending us back all that information, which of late a very concerned NASA is censoring from the public scientific community.... This Satellite Neville, gives early warning in minutes of a solar radiation storm, and its intensity etc. etc. These predictions are accurate, except recently when the intensity went off scale and blacked out all information from SOHO before our local sats were affected....How do explain that radio time delay, Neville if SOHO is not out there. Philip.