[geocentrism] Re: Warning! 2.
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 07:32:43 +1000
An Interesting Conversation
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his class on the problem
science has with God, the Almighty. He asked one of his new Christian students
to stand and began...
Professor : You are a Christian, aren't you, son?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you believe in God?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is God good?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is God all - powerful?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he prayed to God to heal
him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is
this God good then? Hmm?
(The student was silent.)
Professor : You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, Young fella.Is God
good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from?
Student : From . . . God. . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil
in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil?
(Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these
terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who created them?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the
world around you. Tell me, son . . . Have you ever seen God?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have
you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science
says your God doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Professor : Yes, faith. And that is the problem science has.
(At this point the student then questions the Professor.)
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. there isn't.
(The lecture theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega
heat, white Heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called
cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any
further after that.
There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the
absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the
opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as
darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something.
You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light . . . But if
you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't
it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were, you would be able to make darkness
darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there
is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the
concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science
can't even explain a thought. Science uses electricity and magnetism, but they
have never been seen, much less fully understood.
To view death as the opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that death
cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life - just
the absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a
monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of
course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the
argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work
and
cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not
teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The Class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the professor's
brain?
(The Class broke out into Laughter.)
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the professor's brain, felt
it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the
established rules of empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says
that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust
your lectures, sir?
(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face
unfathomable.)
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . exactly! The link between man & God is
faith. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
Personal comment.
This conversation supposedly took place between Albert Einstein and his
Professor of Philosophy who was an atheist. I cannot vouch for the authenticity
of this conversation but nonetheless the logic behind the student's argument
may be challenging to some.
Jack lewis
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