[geocentrism] Re: Paul D's theme
- From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: Geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:59:47 +0200 (CEST)
Philip M
I could go through your post point by point and if you reject my substitute
here I will oblige by so doing. You see I think I have a way to cut through the
detail and get to the core. I'll give you the short version wherein I rely on
your willingness to understand and put the flesh on the bones so to speak
rather than seizing on every little omission, ambiguity or uncertainty in order
to simply demolish the argument thus avoiding the core issue.
Take a sufficiently large group of new born children and isolate them in an
environment where they can survive and grow. Give them sufficient adult carers
who will teach them language and basic hygiene skills and what is good to eat
and what is not and how to procure it.
These carers will have to impart basic social behaviour but will not pass on
any philosophy (includes religion), mathematics, science, history, geography
etc, but will encourage these children should they show curiosity. The object
is to not pass on any higher values or knowledge.
It is my contention that their attrition rate will be high but that they will
survive and in perhaps 5000 or 10000 years, develop a civilization. This
civilization will develop many traits essentially identical to those we see
around us today and many others which are similar in effect but parallel in
nature. There will be others again which are radically different.
At this point I am confident that religion will exist but the Bible will not
exist, neither will the Koran, the Talmud or the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali.
Whatever religious philosophy exists, its adherents, detractors and revisers
will bicker among themselves, proclaim their ascendancy and seek with divine
confidence to dictate what others should say, do and believe on many matters,
including how the universe works.
Astrology may exist, but if not, equivalent mystic belief systems less formal
than religions will exist.
Certain complex social structures will exist, a system of public morality and
law will be in place and ethical values and their consideration will occupy an
important place in the society.
All of these things are largely inventions determined by historical
coincidences, and we cannot know their details.
But of one thing I'm certain -- that Kepler's three planetary laws will be
known, Newton's physics will be known, atomic decay series will be known. These
things and many others will be known because they exist. They will be known
because they are not inventions -- they are discoveries.
Paul D
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