[geocentrism] Re: On the flywheel
- From: "philip madsen" <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "geocentrism list" <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2008 10:37:12 +1000
Well Allen, this is the first time I heard mentioned that the magnet was
essential to the experiment.. Does GWW say this?Aspden does not on his web
site.. He just says flywheel. But darn it, this web page has disappeared, or
is smothered,
will follow up.
Phil
----- Original Message -----
From: Allen Daves
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 6:49 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: On the flywheel
THE ASPDEN EFFECT:
This experiment involved a gyroscope whose central wheel was fashioned from a
powerful magnet.
The normal amount of energy that would be required to rotate the gyroscope to
a certain maximum speed was 1000 joules. Like a glass of water being stirred up
with a spoon, the rotation of the gyroscope would cause the aetheric energy
inside its central wheel to begin spiraling, and this churning movement would
continue inside the object even once Dr. Aspden brought the gyroscope to a stop.
Surprisingly, for up to 60 seconds after Aspden’s gyroscope stopped rotating,
it would take ten times less energy to return it to the same velocity as it had
attained the first time – only 100 joules.
This is another reproducible effect that has simply been ignored by the
mainstream, because it “violates the laws of physics.”
Kozyrev showed that lead (Pb) maintained its latent forces for 14 seconds and
aluminum for 28, and yet Dr. Aspden’s gyroscopes would retain their forces for
a full 60 seconds.
Dr. Nikolai A. Kozyrev
1.10 KOZYREV’S RESULTS HAVE BEEN REPLICATED, NEVER DISPROVEN
No concrete disproof of N.A. Kozyrev and V.V. Nasonov’s experimental results
exists (Levich, 1996). Independent groups of researchers have now reproduced
and confirmed some of Kozyrev’s experiments. These include A.I. Veinik from the
1960s-1980s, Lavrentyev, Yeganova et al. in 1990, Lavrentyev, Gusev et al. in
1990, and Lavrentyev et al. in 1991 and 1992. American researcher Don Savage
has also replicated much of Kozyrev’s work and published it in Speculations in
Science and Tech.
Furthermore, without any knowledge of Kozyrev’s work, in 1989 G. Hayasaka and
S. Tekeyuchi discovered similar weight-loss effects with rotating 150-gram
gyroscopes, and more recently obtained success by dropping the gyroscopes
between two precision laser beam detectors.
(Remember that a gyroscope that is being weighed in a rotating and
non-rotating state will not show any measurable weight changes unless an
additional process is introduced such as vibration, movement, (in this case
dropping,) heat conduction or electric current transition.)
The results of Hayasaka et al.’s study, conducted on behalf of the Mitsubishi
corporation, actually did make it into the mainstream media, surprisingly
enough. Furthermore, they did indeed attribute their results to the effects of
torsion fields.
Many other researchers such as Dr. S.M. Polyakov, Dr. Bruce DePalma and Sandy
Kidd have independently discovered gravitational changes with gyroscopes, but
it appears that most of them have not fully understood the fluidlike nature of
the aether, which always travels in the spiraling movement of torsion waves.
Figure 1.5 – Data of Dr. Bruce DePalma’s Spinning Ball Experiment
from Hoagland’s 1992 UN Briefing
A perfect example of harnessing torsion waves by rotation was discovered
completely independently by Dr. Bruce DePalma, frequently cited by R.C.
Hoagland et al. on the Enterprise Mission website. Within a complete vacuum,
DePalma took two steel balls and catapulted them into the air at equal angles,
with an equal amount of force.
The only difference was that one ball was rotating 27,000 times per minute
and the other was stationary. The rotating ball traveled higher into the air
and then descended faster than its counterpart, which violated all known laws
of physics.
The only explanation for this effect is that both balls are drawing energy
into themselves from an unseen source, and the rotating ball is thus “soaking
up” more of this energy than its counterpart – energy that would normally exist
as gravity, moving down into the earth.
With the addition of torsion-field research we can see that the spinning ball
was able to harness naturally spiraling torsion waves in its environment, which
gave it an additional supply of energy.
----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Deema <paul_deema@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 9:54:22 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] Re: On the flywheel
Philip M
I am looking forward to the results of your tests because I believe -- oops!
I am very confident -- that you will show that common garden variety high
school Newtonian physics will show Aspden to be in error.
I suggest that you don't really require to time how long the process takes ie
til the wheel stops turning, but just how long it takes the weight to fall say
three feet. Aspden says it will spin up more quickly the second time (if close
to the first time). If the difference is small -- I gained the impression that
it is supposed to be large -- averaging may be necessary. You could fill in the
time between runs with another pull at your stein. That would make the whole
process more enjoyable! But do take care that your counting ability is not
impaired won't you!
I'd like to do it myself you know, but though the process is simple (if the
apparatus is before you on the bench) but if it is not, it is a semi major
undertaking. I'm afraid that is what has slowed my progress at demonstrating
the Earth's rotation in real time. I'd have to build the apparatus.
Paul D
----- Original Message ----
From: philip madsen <pma15027@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: geocentrism list <geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, 16 March, 2008 7:56:47 AM
Subject: [geocentrism] On the flywheel
Paul I said before that your string and weight idea was spot on.. I
remembered my Duncan & Starling 1954, edition, Hey I was exactly 20 when I paid
Two pounds nine shillings and ninepence for it. the experimen listed for all
students to do puts Aspden in the dreamtime category.. I cant see it any other
way.
Basically we have a frame say 3ft high H with a large flywheel on a shaft at
top. A weight M is on the end of the string which is wound round the shaft and
allowed to drop. The drop is timed, the number of turns is noted during the
drop, and the number of turns thereafter till the wheel stops is counted.. then
all of the energy equations are worked out beginning at MgH ..
Ignoring all the rest, the point is that everybody had to make the drop
several times and time each drop, taking an average..
If there was any major deviation on the second and third drop according to
Aspden, SURELY one of the lads who come from the age where how to think and not
what to think was compulsory, would have raised an alarm?
We are talking major deviation here. Assuming Aspden is correct and should
perhaps the first drop be ignored simply because the rest all came would come
close to identical, and the averaging out reduced the amount of the anomaly, we
still would have measured work done by the flywheel after it was powered
showing a gain over input.. Unless perhaps they just put it down to bearing
losses being less than what they really were..
As much as I am reluctant to admit that students and graduates of the 40's-
50's era and earlier could make such mistakes, such as I would expect from the
illiterates of today, to give Aspden the benefit of the doubt, I feel I must
still do the experiment, but I may be wasteing my time if it wasn't for the
beer in my hand..
Will keep ya all informed.. too much at stake.. What with my solar
installation, and my monitoring of waste, I have already gotten my quarterly
power consumption down from 3,500 kwh to under 2000kwh. Since December what
with the wet season cloud and all Ive gotten nearly 400kwh from the sun, and
saved much more by putting clothes on instead of the airconditioner. (my wifes
suggestion) Just wait till I get my wind extraction machine on line. I just
hate wearing anything more than my shorts.
Phil..
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