Will you reconsider, my friend? Resurrexit, sicut ipse dixit! Robert You are absolutely correct Robert, and of course the thought had not escaped me when I wrote my reply. As eveidenced by my tongue in cheek inclusion of the unemployed "useless eaters" Rest assured I have not promulgated it in any way, except to this list, which is good for a stir. By the way, I hate Fosters. True Aussie beer is FOUREX xxxx or was. I believe it was taken over by New Zealand. I make my own now. Philip. PS Would the word "fiction" in the smallest type serve as a disclaimer,, Please? somewhere right down there