Allen, Wendy, Nick, Steven and I are encouraged by your remarks and opinions. I think Allen's suggestion is the best - that we take a break and consolidate our ideas and thinking on these issues. (It will give people a chance to catch up on some postings, too.) As James said, once we got off the doctrinal differences we started to make progress on several fronts. The "enemy" has had 400+ years head start; we can allow ourselves a few weeks rest. The forum is therefore closed for a few weeks, God willing, of course. Yours in Christ, Neville. "Niemann, Nicholas K." <NNiemann@xxxxxxxx> wrote: Neville, I agree the forum is very worthwhile. As a non-scientist I don't add much, but I do appreciate the postings of others and the opportunity to see the analysis on this issue. Regards, Nick. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com