Many good quotes in this series Bernie.. The music and visuals just help to keep one focussed. Its not really alternative science to Gravity, but an addition. I have always held it to be an electric universe, but gravity is part of it. It is after all not a very strong force... Just as well... Philip. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Brauer To: geocentrism@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2008 4:23 AM Subject: [geocentrism] Cosmology in Crisis - two parts 10 plus 10 = 20 minutes total time Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm3N71iJJzA&eurl=http://www.thunderbolts.info/online_videos.htm Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyOGjuxWhrM&eurl=http://www.thunderbolts.info/online_videos.htm Bernie