Dear Philip, I do not wish to be drawn into Catholic dogma, not on this forum at least, but I must correct one comment that you made. Mary is presently asleep in death and most certainly does not protect, nor help, anyone. I only feel to need to correct this, because it is such a blatant blasphemy. I am going to draw a line on denominational issues. We will confine ourselves to the scientific and Biblical issues involved in cosmology and related science, please. Neville. Philip <joyphil@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Dear Philip,I haven't a clue what you are talking about and I don't think you do either!JackDear Philip,I haven't a clue what you are talking about and I don't think you do either!JackDear Philip,I haven't a clue what you are talking about and I don't think you do either!JackDear Philip,I haven't a clue what you are talking about and I don't think you do either!Jack. Hmmm. And wasn't it Neville who said redicule and insults was the way with evolutionists. I've come across quite a lot of that plus outright hate from antiCatholics. Most violent of course were the communists. But I pray for you still, Jack. No hard feelings whatsoever. May God be with you, and Mary His mother protect and help you towards the true charity of Jesus Christ. Philip. --------------------------------- ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun!