- We won't be here, goofy! Once again, check with me first!! -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Griffin Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:47 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find. - Since Bell Mountain is no longer around, I think I will do GC6C3, Rock Pile Mountain on New Years Day for my Traditional 4/4 or harder. Anyone care to join me? I know that Didg, Strider and Crowesfeat have done it. It has 29 finds since 4/14/2001. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenn" <potbellystove@xxxxxxxxx> To: <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:18 AM Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find. > - > Bingo and bingo. > > The Forest service declared wilderness areas absolutely off limits and we > had archived a couple cache. After our hike to Bell Mountain for bruces > 300th find it had to be archived and then The pioneer cache. > > The Forest service declared that wilderness areas were not to be littered > with all sorts of man made object so caches were not allowed. (It was OK > to have manmade trail signs and such but no caches). They cited the > regulations and everything. > > After a lot of wrangling by Jeepers2 and Myotis, the forest service > changed their minds and said that they had misinterpreted the guidelines > and that while caches for expeditions were clearly not allowed that > really didn't apply to our kind of caches. > > that being said, it is NOT easy to place a cache in a wilderness area. > Lots of extra hoops to jump through and all that. Jeepers2 is the only > one that i know of that has done it. > > I believe that caching in wilderness areas in national forests in other > parts of the country is still something that is not done. (as far as i > know but i may be wrong) > > And there is only one "1st to make it to 2000" and Bruce was it. > > Glenn > > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Michael Griffin wrote: > >> And. No one else in the world had 2000 finds. >> -------------------------- >> Mike Griffin >> 314-569-7428 ESN: 281 >> 636-485-9998 (Cell) >> >> Sent using my BlackBerry Wireless Device. >> Typos are entirely possible! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <geocaching- bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Thu Oct 30 10:55:29 2008 >> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find. >> >> - >> Ahh.. >> >> Because it is in a primitive area in a National Forest! >> >> Am I right. I know I'm right! >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/geocaching/03-2003/msg00394.html >> >> Fried Okra >> >> Gary Braman >> Senior Technical Consultant >> focusIT, Inc. >> 8655 E. Via De Ventura >> Suite G-200 >> Scottsdale, AZ 85258 >> >> Support (480) 346-1299 >> Main (480) 346-1100 >> www.focusITinc.com >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ] On Behalf Of Glenn >> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:55 AM >> To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find. >> >> - >> You are close on both guesses. >> >> It is also unique. the only cache like it in the state to my >> knowledge. (unless someone slipped one in on me) >> >> >> On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Gary Braman wrote: >> >> > - >> > Glenn, >> > >> > Thank you very much! I am really looking forward to this "famous" >> > Pioneer cache. >> > >> > When are you going to tell us why it is famous? Is there a reason >> > other than it was Bruce's 2000th find or that it was pulled by the >> > Forest Department at one time? >> > >> > Thanks again! >> > >> > Fried Okra >> > >> > Gary Braman >> > Senior Technical Consultant >> > focusIT, Inc. >> > 8655 E. Via De Ventura >> > Suite G-200 >> > Scottsdale, AZ 85258 >> > >> > Support (480) 346-1299 >> > Main (480) 346-1100 >> > www.focusITinc.com >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > ] On Behalf Of Glenn >> > Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:41 AM >> > To: SLAGA >> > Subject: [GeoStL] Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find. >> > >> > - >> > For those here that are interested in BruceS's 2000th cache find >> group >> > hunt, these are the pictures that I have gathered up since last >> night >> > with the help of Paul and Jim. I had a map or two and they are here >> > also. I believe that I enabled visitors to comment so please do and >> > correct any errors or add additional info. If the links dont work >> for >> > you let me know. >> > >> > All three links go to the same pictures. They are just presented >> > differently. There are other geocaching pictures in the gallery >> also. >> > Feel free to look around at anything that is there. If you link >> > motorcycles, it is your lucky day. :-) >> > >> > >> > Gallery view: >> > http://potbellystove.smugmug.com/gallery/6411008_dNtqj//405963034_JYxTV >> > Lightbox presentation: >> > http://potbellystove.smugmug.com/gallery/6411008_dNtqj//#405963034_JYxTV -A-LB >> > Slideshow presentation: >> > http://potbellystove.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=6411008&Albu mKey=dNtqj >> > >> > >> > Glenn >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > **************************************** >> > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from >> > this >> > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >> > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw >> > >> > >> > **************************************** >> > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from >> > this >> > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >> > Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw >> >> Glenn >> >> >> >> >> >> >> **************************************** >> For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from >> this >> list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >> Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw >> >> >> **************************************** >> For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from >> this >> list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching >> Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > > Glenn > > > > > > > **************************************** > For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this > list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri > Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw > **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw