[GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find.

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Bingo and bingo.
The Forest service declared wilderness areas absolutely off limits and we had archived a couple cache. After our hike to Bell Mountain for bruces 300th find it had to be archived and then The pioneer cache.
The Forest service declared that wilderness areas were not to be littered with all sorts of man made object so caches were not allowed. (It was OK to have manmade trail signs and such but no caches). They cited the regulations and everything.
After a lot of wrangling by Jeepers2 and Myotis, the forest service changed their minds and said that they had misinterpreted the guidelines and that while caches for expeditions were clearly not allowed that really didn't apply to our kind of caches.
that being said, it is NOT easy to place a cache in a wilderness area. Lots of extra hoops to jump through and all that. Jeepers2 is the only one that i know of that has done it.
I believe that caching in wilderness areas in national forests in other parts of the country is still something that is not done. (as far as i know but i may be wrong) 

And there is only one "1st to make it to 2000" and Bruce was it.

Glenn


On Oct 30, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Michael Griffin wrote:


And.  No one else in the world had 2000 finds.
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Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find.

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Ahh..

Because it is in a primitive area in a National Forest!

Am I right. I know I'm right!

http://www.freelists.org/archives/geocaching/03-2003/msg00394.html

Fried Okra

Gary Braman
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-----Original Message-----
From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ] On Behalf Of Glenn 
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:55 AM
To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [GeoStL] Re: Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find.

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You are close on both guesses.

It is also unique. the only cache like it in the state to my
knowledge. (unless someone slipped one in on me)


On Oct 30, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Gary Braman wrote:

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> Glenn,
>
> Thank you very much!  I am really looking forward to this "famous"
> Pioneer cache.
>
> When are you going to tell us why it is famous?  Is there a reason
> other than it was Bruce's 2000th find or that it was pulled by the
> Forest Department at one time?
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Fried Okra
>
> Gary Braman
> Senior Technical Consultant
> focusIT, Inc.
> 8655 E. Via De Ventura
> Suite G-200
> Scottsdale, AZ 85258
>
> Support (480) 346-1299
> Main     (480) 346-1100
> www.focusITinc.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> ] On Behalf Of Glenn
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 10:41 AM
> To: SLAGA
> Subject: [GeoStL] Pioneer cache. BruceS2000th find.
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> For those here that are interested in BruceS's 2000th cache find group > hunt, these are the pictures that I have gathered up since last night 
> with the help of Paul and Jim. I had a map or two and they are here
> also.  I believe that I enabled visitors to comment so please do and
> correct any errors or add additional info. If the links dont work for 
> you  let me know.
>
> All three links go to the same pictures. They are just presented
> differently. There are other geocaching pictures in the gallery also. 
> Feel free to look around at anything that is there.   If you link
> motorcycles, it is your lucky day.  :-)
>
>
> Gallery view:    
http://potbellystove.smugmug.com/gallery/6411008_dNtqj//405963034_JYxTV
> Lightbox presentation:   
http://potbellystove.smugmug.com/gallery/6411008_dNtqj//#405963034_JYxTV-A-LB
> Slideshow presentation:  
http://potbellystove.smugmug.com/photos/swfpopup.mg?AlbumID=6411008&AlbumKey=dNtqj
>
>
> Glenn
>
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