I went down to Cliff Cave to check the situation out to see how high it got in the park. I was able to reach the "Railroad Memories" cache, which was intact, but could go no further. From the looks of things, the water was about 2 feet over the East side of the trail. There is still water over the West side of the trail. There is about 2 to 3 inches of mud over the trail, which is why I stopped where I did. It is going to take the parks dept. a long time to move off that much dirt from over 4 miles of bike trail. So it looks like these riverside caches are going to stay disabled for awhile. L Frank (John) _________________________________________________________________ The i’m Talkaton. Can 30-days of conversation change the world? http://www.imtalkathon.com/?source=EML_WLH_Talkathon_ChangeWorld