- Found this on Buxley's site as of 1-6, no more Grounspeak caches: As I'm sure you have noticed, there are a lot fewer geocaches listed on my maps today than there were a few days ago. In fact, none of the geocaches hosted by the folks at Groundspeak (geocaching.com) are currently listed. Why? Well I only want to show caches on my maps that I know are both accurate and up-to-date and I can't do that anymore. As many of you are aware, Groundspeak Inc. and myself have been in discussions for a long time now (since August of 2003!) whereby they would freely provide the information I needed to keep these maps 100% accurate. The talks seemed to be going well and none of the technical issues seemed all that difficult -- I was given a sample set of data way back in January of 2005. So what was the problem? Legal issues. My lawyers said I'd be foolish to sign the agreement as presented to me by Groundspeak Inc. I can't go into details (again due to legal reasons) but the agreement would bind me in certain very strict ways and yet there was nothing in the contract that would bind Groundspeak to provide my site with geocache data that was 1) accurate 2) timely, or 3) complete. So why *would* I sign such an agreement? So anyway, with the turning of the new year, I have decided to make a clean start by removing all the Groundspeak-related data from my web site. My apologies to all the geocachers affected by this -- it certainly isn't something I want to do, but under the circumstance I feel I must. So what's in the future? Well, I've already been contacted by other geocaching and GPS games web sites asking what they can do to help get their data on my maps. (How refreshing!) I'll be working with Quinn and the kind folks over at Navicache.com to make sure their data is as up-to-date and accurate as possible. And I have a few ideas for map improvements that even those subscription-based corporate geocaching sites haven't thought of yet. ;-) So if you're the owner of a web site and you have GPS-related game data you'd like to see on these maps, contact me at waypoint@xxxxxxxxxxx and we'll talk. -Buxley -----Original Message----- From: geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:geocaching-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M. Bollinger Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:26 PM To: geocaching@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [GeoStL] Buxley's Geocaching Waypoint Website - Does anyone still use Buxley's Geocaching Waypoints Website? I use (used) it alot, but now, most of the Geocaches are gone off the map. I liked it because it was easier to see the location of the caches than the Geocaching.com maps. Does anyone know why most of the caches are gone off the maps? --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos - Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and we'll bind it! **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw **************************************** For List Info or To make _ANY_ changes, including unsubscribing from this list, click -----> //www.freelists.org/list/geocaching Missouri Caches Scheduled to be Archived http://tinyurl.com/87cqw