HI all I've contacted bsc games support and they assured me they will keep all my suggestions in mind when they release an update to pipe2, they didn't said if and when they are going to do it. If there are anyone, like me, who cannot get any enemies in levels13 and 14 here's 2 suggestions to make peace with the loss. 1. btw for both methods you have to have a farely good imagination. You must imagine that you are taking the remaining items home. That you are allowed to take home your gun with which you killed the thugs and also all remaining items. So now you come home from a busy day under the ground now you can show your kids and wife what you had left from your mission. You can probably get some use for the remaining wrenches if you had any, to use instead of a spanner in your garage try using the construction hat as a helmet when you ride your motor bike. Try walking on coles when you have the construction hat on. Obviously you can use the gun for self defence and if you have ammo left from your mission, good for you! Then you can use it for self defense. The welding kits you can give to your kids to play with or keep them as a souvenir. 2. the second method needs less imagination. Simply use the items although there is no enemies to use them on. When you fire your gun on levels 13 and 14 imagine that you are smelling gunsmoke and see gun powder in the air. Imagine that the gunsmoke smells very pleasantly. Just dump your wrenches, they make an interesting sound if you dump them. What makes it challenging is if you try to dump as many wrenches as possible before going on fitting the pipe. Or try to get the invisible target sound. Try pressing 2 and then hold down left or right arrow although there is no rats until you hear the target sound and then if you hit control you would just hit the pipe with it although there is no rat sitting on the pipe. I haven't been thus far successful in hitting a pipe with a wrench without a rat being present, the water comes too fast at me. Press 3 for flashlight and imagine how the underground system is illuminated a bit by your flashlight.]imagine while you are pressing 4 for bug spray that the aerosol can containing the bug spray, that its knob pops up and down while you press it. The only item you can't use like this is your construction hats. For those you have to use imagination. Use them at home to walk on coles or use them as a helmet on your motorbike. Maybe the game will notice that you are throwing away wrenches or fire your gun with no enemy in site and then you will probably get only bonus points in the toolboxes of levels13 and 14. after some time the game might decide; "hay this guy is throwing away the items I'm giving him. I will rather only give him a bonus point chunk in a toolbox from now on". By using this second method I get easily used to the fact that no enemies will ever show up on levels 13 and 14. For those of you who do get enemies on levels 13 and 14, good for you! ==================== To unsubscribe or manage your GameTalk subscription please access the following link: http://www.BscGames.com/bsc_gametalk.asp The list archive can be viewed at: //www.freelists.org/archives/gametalk/ ==================== BSC Games Computer Games For The Blind Or Visually Impaired www.BscGames.com