[fsf60k] Re: Comedor Meetings
- From: michael cipoletti <ikecip@xxxxxxx>
- To: fsf60k@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 16:48:10 -0400
***This is a message from a member of Friends of Students for 60,000***
in response to your first point dick one of the issues is the cost of the water
and the reliability.. while there is piped water it does not seem to be
available every day and the piping does not run everywhere..
i think that conchita's point about the comedor structural issues and the three
schools lacking land is equally important and in order to make this program
work each school needs to be on a level playing field..
we did not speak with any parents that did not attend the meetings i suppose
that would be possible however it would be very time consuming and difficult to
pull off...
take care
michael
On Jul 3, 2010, at 4:43 PM, richard wiltamuth wrote:
> ***This is a message from a member of Friends of Students for 60,000***
>
> to all,
> many thanks to mike, conchita, emily and others for putting together this
> report, which is the most detailed we've seen since the project started.
> on the whole, the report is encouraging. problems have been identified and
> are or will be dealt with. parents and leaders in each school seem to be
> finding different ways to adjust to problems, instead of sitting back and
> waiting for somebody else to solve them.
> first to conchita's message:
> 1. only 30 percent of kitchens are self-sustaining, mainly because harvests
> are not profitable because of too much or too little rain, she says. the
> response is to rent the land. this makes sense because the weather can't be
> changed, and rent money is more dependable. since nearly all of chac now has
> piped water, is it possible to bump up the rate by raising crops year-round?
> is part of the 30 percent number due to lack of parents' participation?
> don't think that after all these years, substantially more people are going
> to volunteer to work in the fields we have bought. they'll have to
> contribute in other ways.
> 2. parents are or will be giving money to the comedors. this is a must. the
> amount given by each family can vary according to how much volunteer work
> they are doing and income. but the point is that each family has to do
> something, whether working in the fields, handing over money or bringing a
> few eggs or vegetables to school. families who take school meals and do not
> contribute demoralize the other families. getting everybody to contribute
> something gives the entire community a stake in providing meals.
> 3. some schools have started gardens. either at the schools or at home,
> everybody ought to raise something, especially now given the availability of
> water. do they need money for tools and seed to get gardens moving?
> 4. conchita also points out that two comedors have structural problems and
> three schools do not have comedor land.
> some needs can be addressed quickly and without a huge amount of money.
> these include utensils and plates and a way to secure them in armoires,
> fences around gardens, new stove in mojon sur, latrines, paint. buying land
> for three schools could be trickier---will have to find a close location and
> be sure the land is rentable if need be.
> getting families to participate has been the key problem from the start, but
> it's solvable. would be interested to know if any of the nonparticipating
> parents were interviewed. maybe some don't think the meals are worthwhile?
> looking forward to report on the other four schools.
> ---dick wiltamuth
> On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 6:44 PM, michael cipoletti <ikecip@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> ***This is a message from a member of Friends of Students for 60,000***
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>> Hello all-
>> As many of you know I spent the 17-27 in Chacraseca holding parent meetings
>> at 9 of the sectors 13 schools in regards to the comedor program. I was
>> joined at these meetings by Conchita, Emily Sendin of the Chacra-Miami
>> Project and a college Friend Anna Desousa. The following represents my notes
>> from each of the meetings.. I have several personal thoughts interspersed. I
>> want people to get this info read it and respond with questions.. In the
>> interest of time i am sending it out in this format. please give feedback
>> ask questions asap... The last four schools will be met with in the end of
>> July.
>>
>> Maryknoll
>> The parents need to participate and collaborate monthly
>> If they are not cooking they Need to be paying a bit each month
>> Donate a bit of the food from your own harvest
>> 2 mothers cook volunteer.. For a period to ensure there is food every day..
>> 10 cordobas monthly per family (not per student)
>> Market Days last Tuesday the 22nd approx. 180 intact eggs arrived at the
>> school. (once a week at all schools we will have "market day" where each
>> child will bring in an egg or some sort of fruit or veggies to vary the
>> monotony of rice and beans)
>> 110 families 250 students
>> Approx 80 familes present
>> Renting 3.5 manzanas 350 dollars in total
>> Land is far.. 350 is a sure thing...
>> This is a base problem.. The economic situation in the community makes it
>> difficult for this program to grow...
>> When this is info fact the only "solid" meal that people are eating daily
>> it makes the situation difficult..
>> Single mothers with all the responsibility of managing the family..
>> But on the other hand the people live in deplorable conditions but have
>> bikes tvs stereos...
>>
>> San Ramon
>> This program is fantastic.. His children come home full.. At home there is
>> not much to eat.. In the morning coffee and bread sometimes only coffee...
>> (from a parent)
>> They need to be contributing money (perhaps 10 cords monthly) (this was
>> agreed upon)
>> There seems to be poor communication in this comedor..
>> We need more security in this comedor...
>> Only one mother is cooking cause parents do not show up.. She is
>> volunteering without pay...
>> But some parents are saying that if i was asked i would participate (cook)
>> The woman that cooks can not offer things like wood cooking oil etc so she
>> volunteers
>> The kitchen was robbed about 2 months ago and the utensils have not been
>> replaced...
>> They did not cook last week because there was no firewood..
>> 5 cord a month would provide 3 months of wood (per family)
>> Put a garden at the school (perhaps JMU) could contribute the $$
>> 14 parents and Andrea the teacher out of 22 parents 40 children
>> The school needs to be fenced in as well.
>> The parents have agreed to pay 10 cordobas monthly to cover the cost of
>> wood and additional alimentation...
>> firewood was purchased on Tuesday 6.22
>>
>> Concepcion
>> 45 families 85 students...
>> There is one day a month where they are eating well.. There is a woman that
>> comes daily to sell and she pays 100 cordobas with that money they buy
>> chicken for one day a month..
>> They want to grow a garden here at the school.. But the animals create a
>> problem...
>> There are not sufficient utensils and plates for everyone to eat at the
>> same time...
>> The 4-6 graders are going to participate in the garden program.. The fence
>> is the obstacle..
>> Parents are cooking or paying someone to replace them....
>> They are provided with the 50 pounds of sugar..
>> The school has plenty of fire wood...
>> 24 parents present..
>> Up until two years ago they were planting.. One of the issues is only 8
>> families were participating in the planting and this caused issues which
>> led to the decision to rent instead of plant...
>> They will begin to plant at home and give a little fruit, veggies eggs etc.
>> This school seems to be organized better then most.. Participation is good
>> the program Is functioning as expected but with stronger parent
>> participation things will improve..
>>
>> Mojon Sur II
>> This comedor needs utencils and various cooking implements can we buy a
>> parcel of land..
>> i think it is crucial that each school has land so there is a balance and
>> equitable distribution on the program.
>> 28 parents present
>> 100 kids 66 parents
>> 2 mothers cook daily they bring things from the house to compliment the
>> rice and beans...
>> No tierra so this limits the ability to create funds.
>> A garden is in the works (we need maya miami-Dade funds?)
>> Parents will contribute 5 cords a month (plus one for gas and one for
>> water)
>> Students for 60k will need to provide an armoire to ensure the stuff is
>> secured.. (50 dollars?)
>>
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>> Mojon sur i Jose Dolores 3
>> 2 big tables two small tables etc etc... 3 manzanas they are thinking of
>> renting it as well because it is too far... (last year 1000 cord a mz.)The
>> comedor cannot be used for storage... The kids are eating daily but the food
>> is being cooked at home each kid brings a cup and glass every day... The
>> stove was destroyed... 100 percent of the parents are participating and the
>> children are eating daily... Parents 5 cords monthly sch
>> 25 parents
>> 80 children 51 families
>> The kitchen is damaged and the parents are cooking at home..
>> 95% of the parents are cooking and the rotation is working well..
>> This comedor needs renovation.. (will get a proposal to fix this comedor)
>> ANNA PLEASE SEND PICTURES
>> The kitchen needs to be made bigger and better with proper ventilations..
>> They are renting the land for 1200 cords a manzana and using this fund for
>> purchasing food..
>> When a parent can not come someone is paid to cook the food..
>> The 50% that are here are the ones that are always at the meetings..
>> Some of the parents do not cook well (like they don't care)
>> We should paint this school
>> Needs latrines... Make a deal (90% participation we do the work in
>> december)
>>
>> Paraiso
>> 70 students 45 parents 25 present
>> 1 yuca manzana is being harvested 2240 was the profit..
>> 1 wAs rented 2000 cordobas(last year)
>> 2.5 manzanas yuca... .5 is unusable 2 rented 2000 cords each...
>> 1000 cordobas to make the tumbola (but will it make profit?)
>> The parents seem to be working well on the land and the kitchen rotation..
>> They eat the rice and beans every day.. Gets boring.. One day a week buying
>> meat..
>> The parents are paying the preschool teacher (13 students 20 cords each)
>> plus the mined 500
>> This is taxing with a lack of work... Getting a monthly payment here might
>> be difficult..e
>> They have a garden (may Miami dade) squash and carrots.. (the evil eye is
>> affecting the harvest)
>> Ivan helps with fire wood and the parents bring some when there is a
>> shortage..
>> 9 cows and Ivan is in charge of them... No milk at the moment..
>> The kids eat outside of the comedor which is why utensils disappear.. Hence
>> the kids bring plates etc from home every day.. (armoire would not solve
>> this)
>> New classroom being built as a preschool classroom and then the comedor
>> will be used in its proper purpose..
>> Parents will donate one egg a week kids will eat eggs (Wednesdays)
>> 1 cord monthly for water..
>>
>> Alberto barrios
>> 40 parents present
>> 183 elementary students 110 parents
>> Rotation of parents for grade... For cooking
>> ANF is not helping this school..
>> But they are actively seeking other ong for help (arco iris) but it is not
>> consistent
>> When a mother cannot make the cooking day they pay another woman 30
>> cordobas to cook
>> 8 cordobas a month cover water transport and alimentation..
>> Monday will be egg day..
>>
>> Las brisas
>> 45 students 26 parents
>> 16 present
>> 3 rented 1000 cordobas each one use the money for one day a week of other
>> foods and other supplies
>> 3 will be planted.. Maiz melon will be planted... Will sell part and eat
>> part..
>> 1 6 liters of milk daily...
>> They have a rotation every 15 days each mother cooks (2 people)
>> In the case the mom cannot come a sub is paid 20 cords...
>> They are donating veggies to augment the comedor..
>> They are growing beans as well.. Fruits and other stuffs are being
>> donated..
>> There is a garden but it is not closed with a fence..
>> New comedor is secure..
>> Sold a macho to get a female = milk..
>> More cows..= milk..
>> Milk is more consistent then crop growing.. It's a sure thing
>> 10 cords a month..
>> (return in October)
>>
>> Miramar
>> 37 padres
>> 175 students 67 parents total...
>> 1400 is the rent for the 2 manzanas..
>> 1.5 manzanas being planted about 90% participation the other parents are
>> helping in other ways...
>> Mothers are cooking in cases where mothers cannot show they are paying 30
>> cords for a r placement..
>> The techo is bad the puerta is bad
>> There is a lock box to store supplies...
>> No cups etc..
>> Parents provide the fire wood...
>> 4 cords being paid for transport and food.. Will increase to 10 cords
>> monthly beginning in July
>> Need to secure things with an armoire to keep out the cockroaches..
>> They have a garden with ayote pepian.. (just starting)
>> Need latrines.. 1 is functioning (kind of) and one inodoro..
>> (return to this one in October)
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