Re: [foxboro] One More Thing....
- From: Michael Toecker <michael.toecker@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 15:51:10 -0400
Don't forget, all that single core goodness can be wrapped up in several
single core virtual machines to transparently obfuscate the fact the code
has never been updated for parallel use. That's progress, folks.
Mike
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 2:50 PM, Vandewater, Tom (HI Contractor) <
TVandewater.contractor@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Ha ha Brian. So true. But not just any home PC. It HAS to be very
> specific models from only ONE vendor. All the control system vendors have
> moved to using PC's for their platforms. Most vendors have designed a
> system that allows the customer the freedom to choose any vendors PC that
> meets a minimum hardware spec., (usually RAM, CPU, and hard drive
> capacity). Those vendors also utilize multiple cores built into the
> machines. Foxboro has always tied their design to specific hardware and is
> the only control system vendor I know that continues to go down a hardware
> specific path, especially to support their MESH network. Sometime early
> in the MESH development design they advertised that customers would be able
> to use commercial off the shelf, (COTS), networking equipment for the
> proposed MESH. A bit later it appears that they found they couldn't
> deliver sub-second failover for their Redundant Ethernet Data Link, (REDL),
> and decided to go with hardware and firmware spe
> cific NIC's, (Allied Telesys), and hardware and firmware specific
> switches, (Enterasys).
>
> When I was working on a very large ABB 800xA installation a few
> years back I realized that it was possible for control system vendors to
> design their redundant Ethernet networks using COTS equipment for
> workstations, servers, and switches.
> Tom VandeWater
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Brian Long
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 6:42 AM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] One More Thing....
>
> Aren't we all so glad we are forced to run our industrial facilities on
> home pc's and we support them with Ebay!
>
> Brian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Gaylon F. Hicks
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:01 AM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [foxboro] One More Thing....
>
> Hi Michael,
>
> We don't have any lying about, but if you will get the Dell service code
> from a typical machine, you can look up the specs/part number on the dell
> support site. There will likely be a plethora of identical or similar
> boxes available on Ebay. And yes, I realize that purchasing folks frown on
> Ebay, but when it's that or a big heaping helping of nothing, Ebay's not so
> bad.
> If you go that route, plan on about a 50% success rate on boxes purchased
> that way. That sounds bad until you look at prices, and the average price
> on Ebay for these boxes is less than $100. Save up, buy a dozen.
>
> Gaylon
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:foxboro-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Michael Toecker
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:46 AM
> To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [foxboro] One More Thing....
>
> If anyone has P0923LT's sitting around and are willing to part with them,
> let me know.
> --
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> Michael Toecker
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