We have recently installed a trial of Process Doctor on about forty loops. We would expand this to about 300 if we decide to keep it. We are using Wonderware InSQL instead of PI, but the process is the same: some time in the off hours a large amount of data is queried by Process Doctor from InSQL and Process Doctor munches the data and generates reports. Accessing the data was relatively painless as all the months of pain of installing and upgrading our process control network was already done to get the InSQL online. The InSQL gathers data from each of three AW's through their second ethernet ports. This is working well for us. Configuring Process Doctor takes a lot of time. We dedicated one of us and a Matrikon person for two weeks to set up the software in a new server, configure the software, and input the configuration for each loop. =20 Reviewing the daily reports is tedious due to the way the web page is layed out. Use the weekly reports to flag problem areas that can be looked into with more detail using the daily reports rather than plowing through daily reports. We now have to decide whether to keep the software. We haven't gotten a lot of insight out of it so far. We didn't find any problem loops with Process Doctor that we didn't already know were a problem. Process Doctor doesn't help diagnose the problem or suggest tuning constants or a configuration change. It does identify how aggressively the loop is tuned, and identifies valves with hysteresis. Most loops with these problems can live with these problems or they would have been fixed already. Don Kennedy -----Original Message----- From: Neil Martin [mailto:neil_martin@xxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Wednesday, 03 November, 2004 8:23 AM To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [foxboro] Matrikon Process Doctor vs. Expertune Plant Triage I have the same question concerning Process Doctor and Plant Triage (whom Foxboro is now partnered with). I would also like to ask if anyone has experience with Matrikon's Alarm Management tools versus the AMO Plus Alarm Management tools from PAS whom Foxboro is now partnered with. We will also require a lot of services for installation, analyzing the data, making recommendations, and implementing alarm suppression and control loop performance. Any insight concerning the Alarm Management and Control Performance monitoring offerings and services concerning Matrikon and Foxboro? Neil Martin, P.E. Huntsman Polymers Corporation 2505 South Grandview Odessa, TX. 79766 ph) 432-640-8436 pager)432-742-4289 email page)4327424289@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =20 Jeremy Milum <jmilum@xxxxxxxxx To: foxboro@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > cc: Sent by: Subject: [foxboro] Matrikon Process Doctor vs. Expertune Plant Triage =20 foxboro-bounce@fr eelists.org =20 =20 11/03/04 08:41 AM Please respond to foxboro =20 =20 Does anyone have any experience with using either of these two products: Matrikon Process Doctor or. Expertune Plant Triage. We are wanting to get a loop monitoring/tuning package and are weighing the merits of both. _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: = mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Djoin to unsubscribe: = mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dleave =20 =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html =20 foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: = mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Djoin to unsubscribe: = mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=3Dleave =20 _______________________________________________________________________ This mailing list is neither sponsored nor endorsed by Invensys Process Systems (formerly The Foxboro Company). Use the info you obtain here at your own risks. Read http://www.thecassandraproject.org/disclaimer.html foxboro mailing list: //www.freelists.org/list/foxboro to subscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=join to unsubscribe: mailto:foxboro-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=leave