Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin... Once upon a time, long, long ago, when the world of IT was young, a group of software developers built a software tool for building application more quickly than COBOL. It came with its own relational database and had a query language not too dissimilar to the language we now call SQL, and maybe even what we then called SQL - it's so long ago... Legend has it that some of the team felt constrained by (wrong) commercial decisions and formed a company of their own, perhaps called Matehematica, perhaps not. They created another language called RAMIS, whose query language was less like SQL, but still very English-like in syntax. Query requests started with the command TABLE FILE and contained familiar elements like PRINT, BY and ACROSS. This product also had its own relational database. It is said that history repeated itself and some of the RAMIS team lead by Gerry Cohen and Peter Mittleman parted company with Mathematica and formed their own company, Information Builders, and launched their own product, FOCUS. All these products were developed in the days of the mainframe. Of the 3 FOCUS has certainly been the most successful. Both Nomad and Ramis seem to have suffered from lack of development funds hindered by several transfers of ownership in their lifetimes. I hope I've got the essentials right - most of the information above I have dragged from distant recesses of my memory (why did I never write this down somewhere at the time?) Of all the things I have lost, it is my memory I miss most. Harry Wykes, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Hamilton" <airmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <focus-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 10:33 AM Subject: [focus-l] nomad What is Nomad; sounds familiar but I can't remember where or when? bob h