[flashxmlengine] Re: Request for more information

  • From: "HILL, John" <jhill@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <flashxmlengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 17:04:02 -0000

Thanks Julian

 

You have provided some excellent feedback - thanks again for giving your
time to answer these questions.

Your feedback also gives a clear overview of Xerte - which will help me
promote the product to other potential users in my institution.

 

Cheers

John 

 

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From: flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tenney Julian
Sent: 14 February 2007 16:40
To: flashxmlengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [flashxmlengine] Re: Request for more information

 

Hiya,

 

To answer John's questions:

 

- Can you provide me with a brief explanation of your role within the

Xerte project?

 

I am the lead developer on the project. I've designed and built all the

core functionality, and oversee the ongoing developments.

 

 

- What is the aim behind the development of this product?

 

To accelerate the development of rich, interactive elearning materials.

Flash is a great tool, but it has a very broad focus. Xerte aims to

provide a much narrower focus on the sorts of common issues facing

elearning developers, and to make it easy and quick to accomplish common

tasks. It also aims to provide a library of proven, tested code

available to achieve these tasks, and to provide solutions to difficult

problems like SCORM compliance and accessibility that are easily reused.

 

The aim is not to make a tool for non-technical people. Xerte is a

developer's tool, as it stands, but there's no reason why anyone out

there can't write editors for our XML format that are more appropriate

for less technical users and have the resulting XML play in our runtime

engine. On the other hand, you could code an .rlo file by hand in

notepad, so I prefer to think of Xerte as a sort of platform.

 

 

- Can you explain the main reasoning behind the decision to use Flash

technology and XML technology to create your product? 

 

The flash player is ubiquitous, and offers all the functionality I need.

 

 

 

- What are the advantages and disadvantages of using these technologies?

 

I can't think of many disadvantages. The flash player avoids the issues

that arise from browser incompatibilities, and means we can maintain one

codebase easily.

 

 

- Did you consider using any other technology to create Xerte and if so

why were these rejected?

 

The engine would always have been a swf file. I did consider, breifly, a

dhtml solution, but was put off by the issues with different browsers. I

considered writing the editor in Delphi, but began putting it together

in Flash and things went quite well, so I carried on.

 

 

- Do you believe it is having a positive impact on teaching and

learning?

 

I don't think Xerte itself is having an impact on teaching and learning,

but materials created with it are. There's more to the materials than

simply the tool used to build them, and the impact on teaching and

learning is likely to be due to a number of other factors. What Xerte

does allow though, is to quickly prototype ideas and get them in front

of customers quickly.

 

 

- Do you believe using this product will impact on the future costs of

developing learning materials?

 

Yes. It is already. I've seen work done in Xerte in hours that would

take weeks using Flash alone. I demo'd Xerte to a group of developers

yesterday, and in miutes was able to create a simple application that

offered features they'd not been able to find in any other products.

 

 

- Did you have any reservations about adopting a system provided through

Adobe Flash?

 

No.

 

 

- Did the accessibility issues of flash concern you? And what do you

perceive to be the significant issues?

 

Flash is a lot more acessible than people think. I think the main issue

with accessibility is that there is no silver bullet. It needs to be

considered through the entire lifecycle of projects, and many developers

aren't thinking about it at all. Go to any flash based elearning piece

and try and navigate through it using the keyboard alone. Can you?

That's actually useful functionality for many people, not just those

with special needs. We've implemented some good accessible features, but

if developers using Xerte don't think about accessibility, their content

won't be very accessible. We really believe that accessible design is

good design for everyone.

 

 

- What are your plans for using this technology in the future?

 

Well, it would be great to move it all over to Flex, in ActionScript 3,

but there's a lot of work between here and there. I will continue to use

it to build all my content projects because it does everything I need it

to do, and when I find situations where a particular feature would be

useful, I can build it in. I'm very happy to hear from other users about

new features they'd like to see.

 

 

- What do you feel the impact will be of learning object repositories

such as Jorum? Do you feel Xerte will have a significant role in the

growth of repositories?

 

I think there's a long way to go before repositories like Jorum start to

have the impact they might. Reusability, in practice, is still quite

difficult. I hope that by enabling people to create standards compliant

content easily, that Xerte is helping to facilitate the reuse of

content. I think it's much more likely that content will be reused if

potential users can easily tweek / change the content, and Xerte offers

a number of ways to do that.

 

 

Julian

 

 

 

 

 

 

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      From: flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HILL, John

      Sent: 14 February 2007 15:14

      To: flashxmlengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

      Subject: [flashxmlengine] Re: Request for more information

      

      

 

      Hi Julian

 

       

 

      I have put together a number of questions regarding Xerte which

would help me gather some important qualitative data for my

dissertation. I would be very grateful if you could spend a small amount

of your time to answer these questions. Sorry I know you must be very

busy but it would be good to receive some feedback. I'm looking forward

to getting my Diss finished so I can start using Xerte and get back to

developing learning tools instead of researching and writing about them.

 

       

 

      Thanks,

 

      John

 

       

 

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            From: flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HILL, John

      Sent: 26 January 2007 16:30

      To: flashxmlengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

      Subject: [flashxmlengine] Re: Request for more information

 

       

 

      Hi Julian,

 

       

 

      Thanks for the quick response. I will take you up on your offer

of answering some of my questions. I will put together a couple of

structured questions and send these onto you in the near future and

hopefully I will be able to use the responses in my dissertation. Once I

get to grips with using Xerte I will probably have some technical

queries sometime in the future.

 

       

 

      Thanks,

 

      John

 

       

 

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            From: flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tenney Julian

      Sent: 26 January 2007 16:11

      To: flashxmlengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

      Subject: [flashxmlengine] Re: Request for more information

 

       

 

      Hi John,

 

       

 

      Your masters dissertation sounds interesting, and Xerte

certainly fits the bill. I can give you more detailed information as you

need it, but here's some general info:

 

       

 

      We've been developing Xerte since September 2004, and using it

for our own projects since then: the needs of real projects have

informed it's development, and we've covered so much ground now that

there's not a lot Xerte can't do. The design philosophy has always been

'make anything possible', and so we now have a very powerful set of

tools for developing complex interactivity. 

 

       

 

      Within our team we have now created around 50 learning objects

learing Xerte. Since we have made it available, it has been downloaded

about 1500 times, and our website is getting around 2500 hits per month.

There are no papers as yet, but it will be cited in some papers later in

the year. 

 

       

 

      Feel free to fire away with any other questions,

 

       

 

      Julian

 

       

 

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            From: flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

[mailto:flashxmlengine-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HILL, John

      Sent: 26 January 2007 14:13

      To: flashxmlengine@xxxxxxxxxxxxx

      Subject: [flashxmlengine] Request for more information

 

            Hello to the designers of Xerte,

 

             

 

            I have recently discovered your xml/flash editor at the

moment I have only had an initial exploration of the tool but it seems

to have the potential to be an important tool to build flash based

learning objects. I have recently completed a project using xml data in

a flash based tutorial, if I had had your product available at the time

it would have saved me some major headaches. I plan to explore the tool

in more detail over the coming months and hopefully use it for upcoming

projects. At the moment I am writing a master's dissertation in

Multimedia and the subject is the impact of XML and Flash technology on

learning tools developed for Higher Education, the Xerte tool is of

obvious interest to my studies. Could I please make a request for more

information on the product - for example have any papers been written

about its development or current usage, any usage figures would also be

useful.

 

             

 

            Apologies for using this listserv to make contact but I

could not find a direct e-mail

 

             

 

            Thanks for your time,

 

            John

 

            John Hill

            Senior Learning Technologist

            Learning Technology Support (LTS)

            Centre for Learning and Teaching (CLT)

            University of Gloucestershire

            Tel: (01242 71) 4611

 

             

 

 

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