I recently priced the Symantec Mail Security 8240 Appliance at PC Connection. 1 Appliance (hardware) 1657.85 150 150 user maintenance $29 per = $4350 Total = $6007.85 If instead I went with the 2-year maintenance, it would be total=$8407.85 for 2 years. My company may be looking for a new solution this October (spam and virus scanning). My most likely option right now is a scanning service such as "MX Logic" or "MessageLabs". I found that for 132 users MX logic is $2.25 or $1.75 per user, per month. (price depends on service level and options.) Steve Iltis Metal Exchange Corporation (314) 434-3500 x166