I support what can run on my servers and what clients need, security considerations included. ;) John Tolmachoff MCSE CSSA Engineer/Consultant eServices For You www.eservicesforyou.com Note to self: I should have contracted with John T for off network SMTP relay services and Web hosted. Our second tier provider is going off line in 8 hours and all the images hosted on the tacteam.net site will be unavailable for three or four days :( Hi John, do you support DoubleTake? See you all on the other side, Tom Thomas W Shinder <http://www.isaserver.org/shinder> www.isaserver.org/shinder ISA