I use the MS method backup utility. You must have the server with Exchange, run it's own backup. It could archive to itself or archive to your backup machine (or any machine for that matter...) That should solve the issue of where the backup file sits and where space is located. Mark is correct is stating that the above ( and below) [http://www.msexchange.org] Is where you need to read to gather your information. It has a method of using ntbackup to backup your exchange server. A good read. --Kenny Mann -----Original Message----- From: Jamie A. Byrnes [mailto:jabyrnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 8:10 PM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Backing up exchange http://www.MSExchange.org/ Mark, You can most likely find all the info you are after at the above site, but the basic formula for backing up exchange is: You need a "exchange-aware" backup program. This could be the built-in backup program on Win2K (NTBACKUP.EXE) or a third party backup program like Veritas BackupExec which MUST have the exchange add-in installed. Note that you install the exchange add-in on the backup server, not the exchange server. These allow you to backup the exchange while it is running, and they both automatically check to see if all transactions have been committed to the DB before deleting transaction logs that are no longer required. Note that relying on the open file option is a bad idea when it comes to ANY database. It is also possible to do a poor-man's backup by setting a schedule to shutdown exchange services, perform a normal file-based backup, delete trans logs and restart services. This generally isn't recommended anymore due to the above options being available - if there is a flaw in your DB then wiping the trans logs could make things worse. Its been a while since I used NTBACKUP, but don't you have to run it on the exchange server for it to give you the exchange options? Jamie. -----Original Message----- From: mark [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, 19 June 2003 9:09 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Backing up exchange http://www.MSExchange.org/ Ok, now that I have disabled circular logging, should I do any kind of maintainence to the log files. MS states that the log files will fill up my hdd if circular logging is disabled. -----Original Message----- From: David V. Dellanno [mailto:ddellanno@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:08 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] RE: Backing up exchange http://www.MSExchange.org/ XADM: Enabling or Disabling Circular Logging http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;147523 -----Original Message----- From: mark [mailto:mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 10:00 AM To: [ExchangeList] Subject: [exchangelist] Backing up exchange http://www.MSExchange.org/ Hey all. I am using veritas and I even tried with MSbkup, but I cannopt backup my store. This is what the log says: The item \exchsrvr\CONNECT\MSMCON\MAILDATA\MBG\INQUEUE3.MBG in use - skipped. The item \exchsrvr\DSADATA\temp.edb in use - skipped. The item \exchsrvr\dxadata\edb.log in use - skipped. The item \exchsrvr\dxadata\TEMP.EDB in use - skipped. The item \exchsrvr\dxadata\XDIR.EDB in use - skipped. The item \exchsrvr\imcdata\queue.dat in use - skipped. The item \exchsrvr\mdbdata\tmp.edb in use - skipped. It also said something like access denied. I am running exch 5.5 on a win2k srvr. I also ran everything as the exchadm who has god like rights. Any clues? Mark M. Friedman A+, MCP, MCSA Sands Technology Corp. 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