Sara, what you're saying doesn't contradict what I wrote. Within the 70% which is the average of the two semesters both the project and the extensive reading would be calculated. For example, if your project grade is part of G, then 60% of the grade for Semester B would be the project, making it 30% of the final average between Semesters A and B. The average of all the book tasks would also calculated within the 70%. Maxine From: sara g [mailto:saragabai@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2013 11:53 AM To: maxinetz Cc: mv5u@xxxxxxxxxxxx; ETNI list Subject: Re: [etni] Re: yearly grades Maxine, you seem to have forgotten that in both E and G, 30% of the school grade has to be what we call at our school "something else." that is, the project and the extensive reading. we use the project grade as 30% of the E school grade, and the average of the 5 book reports for G. (school grade is what is popularly called the magen grade.) sara g On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Maxine Cwagrach <maxinetz@xxxxxxx> wrote: Hi Lea, The way the yearly AKA Magen grade is calculated is that 2/3 of the grade is the average of the two semesters and 1/3 is the Matkonet exam. As for your second question, the grades of the literary pieces should be included in the F Literature grade; if you're doing the exam, for each unit of literature that you teach, 70% is the summative assessment (test) for that piece and the remaining 30% is for another component in the unit planner (such as the post-reading activity). You then calculate the final F grade based on the grades for each unit, giving different weights to each piece. For example, a poem has less weight than a story, and a story has less weight than the play or novel. Take a look at the Literature Handbook which can be found on the TLC site. This will show you how to calculate the different elements that make up the Magen grades for the various modules. These literature grades shouldn't be included in the grade for Module E but for Module F. Let's say you have your pupils do Module E in Yud Aleph. Whatever literature you've taught them in Yud Aleph would carry over to Yud Bet and wouldn't become part of their Magen grade for Module E. Hope this helps, Shabbat Shalom , Maxine Tsvaigrach -----Original Message----- From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LV Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2013 11:03 PM To: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [etni] yearly grades My colleagues and I are deliberating how to calculate the yearly grade (Magen). We would like to standardize the process. As we need to give three separate grades for three modules, we believe that it is not fair to include the grades of the tests about literature pieces . Do you average the grades of the two terms and then give some weight to the matkonet test? What is the % of the matkonet test in the school ("magen" ) grade? Does it seem right to include grades of literary pieces when they are tested on module E, for example? Waiting in anticipation Lea ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx *************************************** ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx *************************************** -- sara g in israel sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx saragabai@xxxxxxxxx Visit us at The E Zone http://clickit3.ort.org.il/ganyavneenglish ************************************** ** Join ETNI on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/31737970668/ ** ETNI Blog and Poll http://ask-etni.blogspot.co.il/ ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** post to ETNI List - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** help - ask@xxxxxxxx ***************************************