**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** But I was referring to outstanding students, not the ones who need the magen grade to pass. I gave some of them grades as high as 95, but one wrong answer on the bagrut will lower their grade to 90 before they even get to the composition. I'm very concerned about the possible resulting discrepancy and the fact that all of the work that they did over the course of the year may end up worth only 20 or even 10 percent of their final grade. We only sent 8 students to modules F and G, so if my grades aren't more or less accurate for all of the students, they might end up being penalized. Bari > -----Original Message----- > From: etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:etni-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On > Behalf Of Yisrael and Batya Medad > Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 06:57 > To: elgavi@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Etni Messages > Subject: [etni] the magen and Re: Re: grading the modules F and G - > Bari's comments > > > **** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** > > Content-type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-1156967; charset=us-ascii; > format=flowed > Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT > I agree! The more specific, the less accurate. There are so > many factors. > > Personally, I can't stand the "magen" grades. Some (in some > schools many) > students put more energy trying to "negotiate" higher grades than they do > in their studies. I've had students insist that their success is up to > me. "Ha kol talu'i bach, hamorah." Fifty-five passing is > ridiculously low > as it is. I think it's pathetic that a kid would need the points from > classwork/teachers/magen to get there. Passing them when they > know barely > 50% of the material doesn't give them enough knowledge to do well with > harder material in English the following year. It may be ok in subjects > that are self-contained, never needed and erased from the brain > after the test. > > Batya > > ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx ##### ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####