Greetings all,                       It distresses me to see dissension among us. I have always had, and have, the greatest respect for Avi, his dedication to education and his willingness to help others in the field. However, I feel compelled to say that in this case I do not see how he can possibly have come to the conclusions he has from that ETAI meeting on HOTS. What impressed me forcibly was the degree of opposition, it seemed no mere 4 or 5 lone voices to me.   The sad truth is that too many students reach high school way below the required level in English. Years of budget cuts and large classes etc. have taken their toll. If a student arrives at the required level, it is no problem just to move him along, and teach him literature as we always did, even back in the days when questions on literature were simply part of the written bagrut.  However, it should be up to the teacher to decide whether and how much he wants to use a consciously emphasised metacognitive approach as part of this. When teaching a good story comparison, contrast, synthesis and conclusion etc were always used in a natural, integrative fashion as they presented themselves in the discussion. This was a natural part of getting one's teeth into the story.  I love the power of a story, but let me teach it as I feel is right for the class. And if our students arrive way below the required level in English and unequipped with the skills required for dealing with literature, or projects - or even analyzing and critiquing a movie -  in their native language�   I'm not convinced that this Hots program is the solution. Apparently taken from a program designed for primary students in their native language, adding yet more work to teachers overburdened with just trying to teach the curriculum so far in the few hours they have, it seems yet another program aimed at the better students who are not the problem.  I'd like to find the magic bullet too. However, if so many experienced, successful, and dedicated teachers find something is rotten in the state of Denmark �  Ben Sommer              ----------------------------------------------- ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------