[etni] Re: etni Digest V3 #77
- From: "Howard Green" <thegreens@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <howdon@xxxxxxxxxx>, <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 14:07:33 +0200
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Hanan,
The solution to the problems you outlined are not solvable by an influx of
money, although that would centainly get teachers the salaries they properly
deserve. The solution will come from teachers careing about the environment
in which they and by asserting control over disciplin with strong support
from the Ministry, school principal and parents.
Howard Green
Howard Green
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From: "Howard Hanan Sibirsky" <howdon@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 10:00 AM
Subject: [etni] Re: etni Digest V3 #77
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> I have been teaching for 34 years in our country. My real shock is not
> what
> is happening now, but what I saw 34 years ago when I first came to work
> in
> a well known school which I will not name. I came face to face with
> wasted
> time, teachers who, in the main, cannot be called professionals,
> principals
> who obviously were chosen for their political connections and speaking
> abilities and seemed to me to be more interested in in-fighting than
> progress.
>
> I came face to face with dirt - teachers who were either too tired
> fighting
> this phenomena or where simply used to garbage under their feet. I wish I
> had a shekel for every lesson I had to delay and ask the kids to help me
> pick up the piles of garbage under their seats. A perennial comment was
> that
> I was the only teacher who demanded clean floors. As I walked through the
> halls of learning, my ears covered to keep out the constant noise and
> screaming, I would see that it was so.
>
> The technical abilities of the teachers I have known were and are almost
> nil - everyone had and has computers and other electrical gadgets at home.
> At work only texts.
>
> I am not talking about one but many schools I have worked in. A male
> teacher, whose first income is teaching, cannot be expected to make a
> living
> with the low pay you and I receive.
>
> I can go on and on without a stop, I am sorry to say.
>
> Nothing has hardly changed, and seems to have gotten worse. Just read the
> letter copied below.
>
> Learning, though, does go on. Just consider the extent of private
> tutoring,
> the millions spend on these by parents who can buy better schooling and
> teaching.
>
> And finally, most teachers see their work as a comfortable way to earn a
> second income and come home in time to take care of their kids. Can you
> imaging your doctors, engineers, lawyers, police, army or any other
> profession operating in such a way? Doesn't that in part explain the lack
> of
> fighting spirit among teachers to improve teaching methods, modernize and
> so
> on?
>
> So, ladies (and a few men), try to see the problem for what it is and try
> not to blame others for our sins.
>
> Hanan
>
> P.S. I am expecting a wave of attacks against what I wrote above. And the
> same conditions will continue and continue and ........ ........ .
>
>
>
>>
>> Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 08:03:04 -0800 (PST)
>> From: Barry Praag <bpraag@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [etni] Article in Haaretz
>>
>> Thanks for posting the article. I am having difficulty
>> in understanding what Lev's problem is with this. The
>> fact that this country is coming apart at its social
>> seams should not surprise anyone. Add to that the
>> continuing cuts and shirking of governmental
>> responsibilty gives us a recipe for social disaster.
>> The education system up to now has not been decimated
>> as have other government departments.
>> They are going to try and break us and pull us apart
>> so that the privitisation vultures can pick over the
>> remains.
>> There we are Lev a diatribe or discussion of the
>> article take your pick.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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