This doesn't make sense. because the skills of a 5 pt math bagrut are needed only by those who enter the sciences, but every educated world citizen needs a level of at least 4 pts english. if the MOE wanted to really have an advanced level of english bagrut, they could create an optional "mugbar" 7 points by either adding the 2 pts of translation to english (now it is a completely separate subject) or adding an advanced 2 pt unit of literature. (something like the mugbar in sifrut). sara g 2010/5/5 Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx>: > I recently attended a wedding in Jerusalem. There I met a couple of old dear > friends. (She is an experienced English teacher and her husband is the > principal of a very large successful high school.) During our debate about > the HOTS issue, her husband dropped a bomb: > > He claimed that recently at a "kness menahalim" this issue of HOTS, he > claimed, was partially explained. It seems that there is a disagreement > between the heads of English at the MOE and those heading the overall > general education departments: The latter claim that it is unreasonable that > only about 5-8% of our pupils pass the 5 point bagrut in Math, while a much > higher percentage of graduates succeed in English. Hence, there are plans > underfoot (perhaps the HOTS is part of this??) to make the 5 points exams > MUCH harder in English, and the 4 points equally so. What about the weak 4 > pointers? They'll have to "make do" with passing the 3 as do many pupils in > math. The difference of course is that 4 points in math is not a general > requirement rather primarily a "must" for university students interested in > the math and the sciences, while the 4 point exam in English is a > prerequisite for everything in higher learning. > > I wonder how we can check this out????? Any ideas???? If this is indeed > true, (I don't doubt the veracity of my friend's words,) is there nothing we > can do to protest??? > > Anonymous (I want to keep my job!) > > > ----------------------------------------------- > ** The ETNI Rag ** > http://www.etni.org/etnirag/ > Much more than just a journal > > ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org > or - http://www.etni.org.il ** > ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** > ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** > ----------------------------------------------- > > -- sara g in israel sarag@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx saragabai@xxxxxxxxx Visit us at The E Zone http://clickit3.ort.org.il/ganyavneenglish ----------------------------------------------- ** The ETNI Rag ** http://www.etni.org/etnirag/ Much more than just a journal ** Etni homepage - http://www.etni.org or - http://www.etni.org.il ** ** for help - ask@xxxxxxxx ** ** to post to this list - etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** -----------------------------------------------