**** ETNI on the web http://www.etni.org.il http://www.etni.org **** Dear Rivka, I LOVED your idea of the unusual job project - I hope you let us know how it turns out. Regarding the grading, personally, I find that if my rubrics are good, the grading is a breeze (same as with a test, really - if my criteria are clear, grading isn't a problem.) And for the period of time that they are doing the project, I have NO planning and no marking (quizzes, homework) to do for that class. OK, I work like a banshee BEFORE hand to prepare it, but if you do that with a colleagues, it is easier and much more pleasant. Both of the projects I am doing this year in class I have planned and am running with colleagues with whom I feel comfortable and work well (i.e. friends) which makes the whole process more enjoyable. In my 11th grade 5 point project, since our classes are both 5 points, we allowed the kids to work in groups of 3's with kids from the parallel class, as well. This they REALLY liked! I agree with every word you said about the oral assessment. If you spread it out over a few weeks, one or two presentations a lesson, the audience (rest of class) won't get bored, and you will have an activity in Access to Information from a Spoken ext (iow: listening comprehension) every lesson without you having to prepare it! The trick is to think of a way to give the kids something to focus on. Maybe you could have the group presenting prepare 5 questions that each learner must answer while listening to the presentation. Or, you could have them all peer assess the presentations (which I would like less, since that would mean an awful lot of work for me, evaluating that somehow, and working that into the presenters' grades). The most important thing for us, as teachers at this point, IMHO, is that WE learn from what we are doing, by planning carefully, doumenting carefully, adjusting when and as needed, and SAVE the projects (don't forget to PIE them) so that in coming years, we can recycle and reuse. Think about how easy THAT will be, when we all have a repertiore of projects, which we are comfortable with, and have ironed out the glitches, and don't have to make them up each year! See y'all at ETAI! Adele ##### To send a message to the ETNI list email: etni@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ##### ##### Send queries and questions to: ask@xxxxxxxx #####