[etni] Re: Fw: UPP
- From: "Arlene Porath" <arleneporath@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: ask@xxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 09:02:58 +0300
I was under the impression that it is now the* Israeli law *that purchases
can be returned for money back from all businesses.
Arlene Porath
On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Ask_Etni <ask@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: n r - pataliae@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: UPP
>
> what a debate this has turned into;-)
>
> i agree with lots of comments made.
>
> the retailer can make recommendations, even comments, but they shouldn't
> have to have the responsibility of knowing every book; although the advisors
> are very knowledgeable. but I think it is reasonable to expect that they
> thoroughly know the books that they write and publish.
>
> every book has its own synopsis on both the inside and outer back cover.
> these not always 100% accurate, as often written by copywriters not the
> authors, and critics, but a pretty good idea of what the book is about, and
> depending who wrote it an indication of the language used in the books.
>
> books should be rated like movies, but I guess if it never happened it
> probably wont.
>
> you can't expect anyone esle to judge by your standards, i have worked in a
> school where a book was banned because on the last page was a picture of a
> man in a red suit (it was supposed to be santa claus in his pyjamas) but if
> the children had never seen santa claus why would they even relate to who it
> was?
>
> furthermore every time i have bought in this country, at any retailer, they
> always stress that returns will only be allowed if the book is returned
> unread and in the condition bought.
>
> regards
> N
>
>
> Judy wrote:
>
>> Books that are appropriate for some groups might not be for others,
>> without
>> meaning that they aren't good. It's really annoying to see how we continue
>> to perpetuate the paradox - on the one hand, we keep talking about
>> diversity, pluralism, individualized instruction, etc. etc. and still
>> think
>> we're going to find a book / test / method that is good for everyone.
>> You can always read things into names. The old ESH books had a character
>> named Gad Alon. Interpret that.
>>
>
> Tamar wrote:
>
>> *The customer should be able to return anything
>> she wants to and UPP should just gracefully accept
>> her decision and refund her money or whatever they
>> had agreed to over the phone. Her book choice is
>> not the issue, the behavior of the company is.*
>>
>
> Barry wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>> Before buying a new car do you not test drive it first?
>> Before buying new clothes do you not try them on to make sure they fit?
>> Before having an operation do you not get a second opinion?
>> Before ordering books for your students why don't you read them yourself
>> in
>> advance?
>>
>
> Reuben wrote:
>
>> No, they should not be obliged to. We cannot expect booksellers to vet the
>> appropriateness of a book. This is where consumer responsibility comes in.
>> After all, if I go in to Steimatzky's and buy a book like "The Piano
>> Teacher" which is way out in terms of all sorts of mores, I cannot
>> rightfully expect Steimatzky's to change the book for me, can I?
>> The situation is clearly complicated by the fact that you are buying a
>> book
>> to present to pupils. If you are vetting or censoring what they read, that
>> is your perogative, perhaps even responsibility. You cannot, with all due
>> respect, expect UPP to foot the bill for it.
>>
>
> Bari wrote:
>
>> In fact, you don't even need to read the whole book. If you need to weed
>> out books that you feel are inappropriate, a quick internet search for
>> each
>> title should give you the information that you need. If you search for
>> "Goldfinger" in Google, for example, the very first link has a summary of
>> the story (the movie) and the names of the characters. The "offensive"
>> character name is listed right there. I'm pretty certain that you can find
>> a similar summary of every book that you order that way. Is it a lot of
>> work? Well, yes, but it's certainly not something that you can expect UPP
>> or any other publisher to do for you!
>>
>
>
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