Dear Berrie, As not a political person - afterall I research neurofeedback, hypnosis and energy medicine at Imperial College London, which is ranked 3rd in the UK (with all that that entails) - just what would a political agenda be? Our aims, and how they differ form i-SNR have been fully outlined. These issues have evolved during and since Winterthur and hence the Referendum. In order to have university affiliation there needs to be an academic on the faculty that is engaged in biofeedback research. We have few options here. Tubingen and Imperial College London have been discussed but are not feasible. Trondheim offers strong interest with a new programme, and with Juri Kropotov on the faculty. From my personal standpoint and one on the teaching faculty of the training course, a city with an opera house would have been hard to refuse! With best wishes, John -----Original Message----- From: esnr-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:esnr-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Berrie Gerrits Sent: 18 June 2004 07:56 To: ESNR@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [esnr] The SAN-Clan Dear collegues, being new in this field I 'am very surprised to read all these comments on European independence, etcetera. As far as I know the vote in Winterthür concerned the following point: "Does the EU-Board have permission to investigate possibillities of letting become the EU-chapter an independent organisation, IF (I repeat: IF) the iSNR isn't prepared to give more money to the EU-chapter (because at the time the EU chapter didn't have enough means to function properly). Either I missed a piece of the process (negotiating with the iSNR) or the Board skipped a piece, or I got wrong the reason for voting. I would say, like Dr. Congedo and like more clinical oriented collegues: go back to negotiate with iSNR and try to implement the European ideas. There is strength in numbers. Secondly: it seems that Trontheim is going to be the place where a future University degree in QEEG and NT can be obtained. This strikes me. Why not a more central place like Zürich, München, Prague, Paris, etcetera? But mainly my question is: what are the political agenda's behind all these developments?? Met vriendelijke groet/All the best/Ciao, Berrie Gerrits Psychologenpraktijk Gerrits Sloetstraat 14 6524 AS Nijmegen Nederland/Netherlands Tel: 024-3235053 praktijkgerrits@xxxxxxxxx Psychotherapie/eerstelijnspsychologie/Supervisie Neurofeedback en QEEG gecertificeerd BIG geregistreerd (GZ en psychotherapie)