Elaine I don't think I noticed that Grenville had a particular tendency to uglification. Admittedly her descriptions of poverty in London were pretty grim but then so are Mayhew's. Her descriptions of the new colony in Australia were, as far as I can remember, of a beautiful and calm area. I'll have to try another of her books to see if you are right. Steve From: ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ebooktalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Elaine Harris (Rivendell) Sent: 04 June 2013 11:07 To: ebooktalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ebooktalk] The Kates. Hello Steve, I loved both "The Forgotten garden" and "The House At Riverton" by Kate Morton, her book "The Distant Hours" less so but still finished it; However, confess I cannot bear Kate Grenville's work; embarrassing since I have had to interview her, though we got on well enough. I just find her talent for constant uglification of all and any situations (and am not suggesting rose-tinted glasses for every book or scene) too oppressive. Perhaps I would find it easier were her writing not so convincing. Take care, Elaine