Darren, it would be extremely helpful for you to learn braille or to acquire a good braille manual so you could look things up. When you receive a sign job, you need to translate it just as it is. Not using the capital in upper case words or acronyms is not a true translation of the text you were given. I can't tell you how many signs I've seen done by people who do not know anything about braille that were either not legible at all, or had glaring mistakes in them. Though it is possible to translate a print document to braille with the click of the mouse, and often it will turn out ok, it is not absolutely foolproof and you owe it to your customers to put our the best braille signage possible. I worked for two years with a local sign shop who was creating some plaques for us. We had to go back time after time and proofread what they'd done, then ask them to redo it because the spacing wasn't right or a dot was left off, or the translation was incorrectly done. In braille, spacing one dot a little off, or leaving out a dot can change the entire meaning of the word. -----Original Message----- From: duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:duxuser-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Darrin Brunner Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:21 PM To: duxuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [duxuser] Remove leading commas? We're a sign shop that needs to translate to Braille for ADA signs. We got Duxbury 10.5 and all I've done so far is copy text into it and hit control-T and cross my fingers that the result is correct. I've noticed that the every (translated) word starts with two commas which become two dots in braille. One of the sample ADA signs we received from a different shop doesn't have these two dots at the beginning of each word. Here is the text I've translated that shows the two dots: COOLING TOWER ACCESS ,,cool+ ,,t[] ,,a3ess AUTHORIZED PERSONNEL ONLY ,,au?oriz$ ,,p]sonnel ,,only What are they? Can I remove them to save space? Thank you. * * * * This message is via list duxuser at freelists.org. * To unsubscribe, send a blank message with * unsubscribe * as the subject to <duxuser-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>. You may also * subscribe, unsubscribe, and set vacation mode and other subscription * options by visiting //www.freelists.org. The list archive * is also located there. * Duxbury Systems' web site is http://www.duxburysystems.com * * *