Don, the sketch you pointed us to is the same as the one I saw earlier except "mine" had the full view also showing how it attached to the girth. No horse in the breeching. Seeing it on a "horse" makes me realize that what the person called a kicking strap was really a trace carrier. Deryn _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````