Kathy, You don't use breeching? So you rely on the carriage brakes, I assume? The geography around here is rolling, so no long grades. I would assist on the downhill slopes with the carriage brakes, but don't know if I would rely on them entirely. I would hate to run over my own horses, when I've been so busy trying to keep the cars from doing that very thing! ;) Judy _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````