Yes, there is. Make a secondary segment with a band in it, and include this secondary segment in your segments as a segment trigger trak.. -------------------- And on that topic - is there, or will there ever be, a way to create (within a segment) a *reference* to a band, rather than pointlessly duplicating it? DM allows the abstraction of linked parts, why not linking of other objects? Updating all your bands after making a single change is a real joke! Plus, I don't know how many people have used part-linking as a space-saver, but the results can be significant. With some people working under tighter budgets (*cough* X-Box) it would seem like any measure that saves wasted space would be a great feature. Saul.