[ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program

  • From: Rui Vilarinho <ruialby@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 20:25:05 +0100

Hi Johan, 

 Afirmative, all ports are stereo.

 the folowing text explains much better and with exact description though, from 
the developer  website:

 

 Virtual Audio Cable software allows you to transfer audio (wave) streams 
between applications and/or devices.

 

It creates a set of virtual audio devices named "Virtual Cables", each of them 
consists of a pair of the waveform input/output devices. Any application can 
send audio stream to an output side of a cable, and any other application can 
receive this stream from an input side. All transfers are made digitally, 
providing NO sound quality loss (a bitperfect streaming).

 

VAC behavior is similar to "What You Hear" (or "What U Hear", "Stereo Mix") 
feature of Sound Blaster Live! and Audigy cards. But it is only similar, not 
equivalent. If you simply need a function like "Stereo Mix" under Vista/Win7, 
there could be better to try to enable it in your audio adapter.

 

If more than one applications are sending audio to Virtual Cable device, VAC 
mixes all streams together. If more than one applications are receiving audio 
from Virtual Cable device, VAC distributes the same audio data among all 
targets.

 

VAC is useful to record application's audio output in real time (audio player, 
instant messenger or software synthesizer), or transfer a sound stream to 
another application processing it. You can, for example, use two or more 
software audio players/generators/synthesizers/sequencers to produce audio 
streams, sending them to Virtual Cablet device and record a mixed stream from 
the same Virtual Cable device, using any recording software - Windows Sound 
Recorder, Audacity, Sound Forge, WaveLab, Adobe Audition (formerly Cool Edit 
Pro), Gold Wave, Cakewalk/Sonar, Cubase/Nuendo etc.

 

With an ASIO wrapper like ASIO4ALL from Michael Tippach, you can use VAC in 
ASIO supporting applications.

 

If you use an audio encoder application that encodes a stream coming from a 
sound card, you can use VAC to supply such encoder with a stream produced by 
other application.

 

You can use VAC to capture an output sound stream from the application that 
doesn't allow to write it into WAV file directly. Unlike Total Recorder 
allowing you to simply save audio stream, VAC allows to route it in real time.

 

If you are using some Voice Over IP (VoIP) and/or Internet Telephony 
applications like Skype, you can use VAC to record your calls and conversations.

 

VAC needs no hardware audio card; it is a "virtual audio card" itself.



I Hope this description  help clarify some doubts.



Best regards,

Rui Vilarinho



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Johan Piryns 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 6:35 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program


  Hi Rui,

  Thnak for your great support friend.
  But can I than after addjusting this select 1 audiotrack and record in 
Stereo? My broadcasting recordings will be in stereo off caurse.

  Regards and I look for it.
  Johan



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  Van: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Namens Rui Vilarinho
  Verzonden: zondag 31 maart 2013 12:20
  Aan: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Onderwerp: [ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program


  Hi Johan,

  After VAC instalation executable, open the VAC control pannel and select how 
many cables you will gonna need.
  Exist some options that you can adjust, depends of the version you are using.
   I only needed to select how many cables to work with, the version I bought 
is the most  completed and last version, since the VAC control pannel  was 
quite well configured by standard.

  Than you can close VAC control pannel.

  Note:  Windows will recon and will show VAC as a sound card within sounds 
control pannel.

  Therefore, some multimedia softwares will also recon and will show VAC at 
their output sound port.
  For exemple: Winamp, Skipe, SoundForge, Sonar, etc.

  Concerning Sonar configuration; is supposed to be like any other soundcard 
instalation and Sonar recon.
  BE sure that you  check the  VAC driver;  in Sonar Audio  options, in  
drivers page. .
   Apply and do ok.

  If you go to the same audio options, now in general page, it must show 
playback and recordingthe VAC ports.

  Well, then, just consider this VAC ports as any other one's.

  At any audio track of  any  Sonar  project, you will find within the input 
and output, the quantity of virtual cables you define in VAC control pannel.

  regards,
  Rui Vilarinho

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Johan Piryns 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 11:10 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program


    Rui,

    Can you tell me step by step how to install it and configure it in Sonar.

    regards
    Johan



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    Van: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Namens Rui Vilarinho
    Verzonden: vrijdag 29 maart 2013 1:54
    Aan: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Onderwerp: [ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program


    VAC is suppose to be used if you want some of those connections through 
inside  virtual ports. this way we dont need so many external equipment.
    Nice you find a good way and your glad.

    Good broadcasting,

    Rui Vilarinho



      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Johan Piryns 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 1:10 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program


      Hi Rui,

      Ok but i use a ecler stereo clubmixer for recording.
      I play the winamp tracklist from pc richt in my ecler mixer and the mic 
is connected also to the ecler mixer.
      the mixer is connected to the focusrite audio-interface and with an usb 
connected to the pc.
      what I will do is record the music from a channel of the Ecler mixer to 
sonar and the mic that connected to the ecler also in sonar.
      that is easyer to work you know.

      regards
      Johan



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      Van: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Namens Rui Vilarinho
      Verzonden: woensdag 27 maart 2013 13:59
      Aan: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Onderwerp: [ddots-l] Re: recording a broadcast radio program


      Hi Johan,

      Virtual Audio Cable will create a bunch of virtual ports if needed,
      like a soundcard.

      By standard already works,i find it straight forward, the interface is 
very accessible. 

      Therefore, as  exemple:  if you select in Winamp Virtual Audio Cable 1 as 
output, and within Sonar you select the same Virtual Audio Cable 1 as input in 
a audio track, and your microphone  in another audio track  all streaming will 
be recorded in each specific audio track.
       I prefer to ppoint winamp to one audio track, and my microphone to 
another audio track where I can use independent equalization and compressing, 
if you also want to record Jaws, you can select within Jaws soundcard a 
diferent virtual audio cable 2, ,  and point  Jaws to another audio track;all 
pointed to the masterbus where you can insert a multiband, limiter, etc.

      Note: To listen winamp and your mic, etc, recording must be made with eco 
ecco on,
      use control A.

      In adition, if you have a Daw controler like the BCF 2000, wile your 
recording you can make some adjustments in real time with faders, or mute , etc.

      In the end of recording you can make some adjustments and  export all 
project as a single audio track.

      But, let's say that you  really really want to record straight way within 
sonar to one same audio track!
      Go to the masterbus output and select for exemple, Virtual audio cable 3. 
      And at the track view in one more audio track, select the same virtual 
audio cable 3 as input.
      Record all streaming. Well, in the end, if you select to play this last 
audio track exemple, it will be that single track you mention.
      You got to export it also right? or, you can  go get it at the audio 
project  folder though.

      regards,
      Rui Vilarinho 


        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Johan Piryns 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:56 AM
        Subject: [ddots-l] recording a broadcast radio program


        Hi,

        In my studio, I have a unit for recording for radio broadcasting.
        so, is it possible in Sonar to record your program in a one single 
audiotrack?

        I use winamp for editting my playlists and Rui was given me a hint to 
use virtual audio cable.
        How works this and is it easy to use.

        regards

        Johan
        Muzikant/Pianist
        Voor meer info en optredens:
        johan.piryns@xxxxxxxxx

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