The late 70's and 80's is when the mixing trends I object to started, they're not old. Being 57, I remember 50's and 60's stereo mixing trends, and that's where most of my collection and listening tend to be focused. Even much of Frank Zappa's work and that of those who mix one of my other favorite bands, The grateful Dead, tend more toward the left/right/center summing approach. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new song I'm a big 80's fan. So I'm use to the mix of yester-year also. *smile* ----- Original Message ----- From: Nick Dotson To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:54 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new song No, it's just how we grew up hearing things mixed. You and I grew up with lead instruments truly out front as if at a concert. Younger listeners are used to the mushy big glob in your face mixes of today where it might as well be mono unless something pans for effect. Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 11:32 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new song Thanks all I thought about turning them down abit but I'm not sure. I am a guitar player and tend to like em out front maybe a bit to much. I used trilogy for the bass, true piano wide for the piano, 1 instance of omnisphere to do the melody an octive up, could have used real guitar but I like the sound. I also used omnisphere for the stuff in the intro and a bit through out the song. A patch called city slumbers, one called Across the sky, and finally one called gently crushing eternity. For the drums, I used smart loops mediam straight rock this time. I also like drums on demand a lot. But the smart loops seem to fit this one. ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:26 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new song I know what you're talking about with regards to the panned guitars. I think, though, that if he turned them down a bit they would blend in just fine. ----- Original Message ----- From: Darren H To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: new song It kind of reminded me of Jo Satriani if he was trying to do country. Nice guitar harmonies. Wanna give us a run down of hwo you put it together? Which soft synthes, plugins etc. The only think I wasn't sure about was the separation of the guitars, it kind of made them too separate from the mix, as if they'd been added on later. cheers Darren ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Brayton To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 5:11 PM Subject: [ddots-l] new song I just did this today in the studio and liked the way it came out. Just thought I'd share. I think if you click on the link below it'll take you there. http://www.gbrayton.com/new.htm