[ddots-l] Re: jazz fake book
- From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:58:55 -0700
Brian,
Pressing the letter P (I think you also listened to Jackie's presentation,
didn't you?) will change the style from A to B. Both are the same style, but
slightly different to give some coloration. Whenever a style changes the
drums (and other instruments) will usually play a preparatory riff in
anticipation.
Problem is that when pressing P there is no audio feedback to tell us just
what it was changed to. If it was nothing, and the previous was A then it
becomes B. If it was B then it becomes A. Also it's possible to define
completely different styles in a song and each will set up a new pair of
letters C/D, E/F, etc. So if you have any others, then you will be cycling
through A, B, C, D, E, F,... finally back to A.
Only way I've found to do this right is to make sure you have the chord
window open, then activate the JAWS cursor and use that to wander around in
the window to hear the bar numbers and whether they have A, B, C, D, or
nothing attached to them. IF there is a letter, it will be part of the bar
number, such as 2A, 12B, 22C. They will not be separate like the chord
names, so you really need to listen carefully as you navigate to know what
you're seeing.
In this mode, I usually prefer to right click on a bar number and bring up a
context menu that allows you to specify the A/B, and also to define other
style pairs.
I'm not a fan of pressing the letter P and hoping that it did what I
expected -- I'd rather use the JAWS cursor and be sure.
This would be a very nice area to script for better feedback, if at all
possible.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Howerton" <bshowerton1@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 08:56
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: jazz fake book
Chris,
Do you know how to insert like a drum fill using biab? Isn't it like with
the letter P or something?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Smart" <chris_s@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 11:45 AM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: jazz fake book
> At 11:09 AM 8/10/2010, you wrote:
>>Chris thanks for the great tips! I actually have band in a box and am
>>trying to learn the program... Do you use that program?
>
> Yep, I sure do. Although, I don't use most of its features. Mainly I use
> it to learn tunes and to practice with.
> They add new bells and whistles with every new release, but mostly, i just
> use it to enter a tune or play tunes others have already entered, and do
> things like change the key, the tempo, or the style while practicing. You
> can also mute individual parts like piano or bass, if you wanted to fill
> in those parts with your playing.
>
> If you're a Jaws user, jackie McBride developed some scripts for
> Band-in-A-Box that make it a little more user-friendly. I just checked my
> system and unfortunately, I don't have the original zip file, but you can
> get it from:
> http://www.abletec.serverheaven.net/
>
> Perhaps the best thing to do would be to look for a list of all the
> keyboard shortcuts in the Band-in-a-Box user's Guide. And, read about how
> to type chords into the chord grid.
>
> Basically, the steps are:
> 1. Type in the chords to a tune.
> 2. Enter the melody from an attached midi keyboard or just
> 3. Pick a style like swing, pop, Latin etc. from the style menu's list of
> 25 popular styles, or from the Style Picker. and
> 4. Press Play, and Band-in-a-box generates yoru accompaniment and start
> playing it.
>
>>Also, are those books that you listed something that we can read...
>
> The Harmony with Lego Bricks book is usually just available in print, but
> the author was kind enough to send me an accessible copy in Microsoft Word
> format. This was a few years ago and hopefully he's still willing to do
> this. The publisher's site is down for reconstruction so I couldn't look
> up his e-mail. I'll ask around and get back to you on that.
>
> The insights in Jazz book is available as a password-protected pdf file
> from the author and as far as I can tell, is accessible.
>
> I should warn you that these two books are more about learning large
> numbers of tunes and keeping track of it all mentally. They aren't books
> full of chord changes like a fakebook. And, they go against the grain of
> how much of this is tought in jazz programs in colleges like Berklee. It
> isn't a better or worse approach really, just different. :)
>
>>Where can I get that Keith Jerrid's standards trio.
>
> Any record store, iTunes, Amazon etc. Keith jarrett has a huge catalog but
> his standards trio with Gary Peacock on bass and Jack Dijohnette on drums
> is devoted to just playing great versions of standard tunes. They have
> many CD's/dvd's out with names like Standards volume 1, Standards Volume 2
> etc. Don't limit yourself to jarrett though - basically, listen to
> anything and everything you can get your hands on. :)
>
>>My pastor plays guitar with me.
>
> Ah ok, so you are both playing guitar?
> If so, I can give you a list of jazz guitar duo recordings to check out.
>
>>How do I access the yahoo group to get files to use with biab,
>
> just send a blank email to:
> band-in-a-box-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>>and are we allowed to play using other files that we get from the
>>internet?
>
> As far as I know, you cannot copyright a rhythm or a chord progression,
> only a melody. So, you're safe as long as your backing tracks are only
> playing rhythm and chords. The melody and the lyrics are the copyrighted
> bits. I'm pretty sure that's correct - someone please let me know if I'm
> wrong there.
>
> Chris
>
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