I just love drums on demand I think it's drumsondemand.com but you could google drums on demand and find it I'm sure. The way they're layed out is very cool. They're acidized but there are recomended tempos. Each loop set is put together with a song in mind, they have, Verse with and with out crash, with fills, and the same with chorus and bridge. Of course you can put them together anyway you like. Most sets come with extra fills and a couple endings. It's real easy to slap a track together in a hurry that sounds like it was done with a darn good drummer. Smart loops are good too, but I think drums on demand are a bit better recorded. They really have that pop. ----- Original Message ----- From: thomas de rosa To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: [ddots-l] drum loops Hey, I have a question for you experienced guys. I have little experience with drum loops but need more than what sonar 6 gives me and cutting my own with midi isn't good enough for me anymore. So what would you recommend for a starters. The, I guess the simplest but some thing that has good beats. Rock adult rock in that vain. If I don't get back to you right away, it's because I don't get on my equipment but every few days. Thanks Tom URL: www.myspace.com/tder08