Yeah, but if we can access presets at least, then there is at least some use from it, and of course, hot spots may be able to be created. This is the kind of information that would be useful to have in one place. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Internet Radio station: http://www.nhbradio.com Internet radio show every Wednesday night from 8 to 11 pm eastern From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Gibbs Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 2:00 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: comprehensive list of accessible soft synths and effects I think that's a good idea. A good rule of thumb is that Native Instruments, with a few notable exceptions, is not accessible due to bitmapped screens. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Fibraio Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:56 AM To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx; ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] comprehensive list of accessible soft synths and effects Do we have any kind of comprehensive list of soft synths that work with screen readers like Jaws or windoweyes? If not, maybe it is time to make one and put it on a web site somewhere. I know that some soft synths are accessible with caketalking or through hot spots and these can certainly be distinguished, but in messing around, there are some synths where we can at least get to the presets, some synths where we have full access and some where we have none at all. I am getting more into this and with many synths not having a downloadable demo to try, we'll never know until the shrink rap is broken, and then we are stuck. I know for myself, I see a ton of synths I would like to try like a lot of the native instruments stuff like massive and arturia stuff and sample based things for pianos and electric pianos, and the like, and if we had a centralized resource where visually impaired people can go and say, OK, I want to use reactor, how accessible is it, we can give them info as best as we can, say, not accessible, access to presets is possible, link to scripts or hot spot sets that will allow for access, things like that. Would anybody want to try to put this together? I think it would be useful and would limit questions on these lists every few months. I want to extend this to effects plugins as well, since we use these and they present similar issues. It would prevent a lot of cash from being spent needlessly on things that are not accessible and we can even say, ok, reactor doesn't work with jaws, but this soft synth does, etc. Any takers in this endeavor? I am getting heavily into soft synths and want to find the ones that we can use and avoid the ones we can't, and tI know this list would narrow things down for me a lot. -- Damon Fibraio screen names -- aol: dfibraio...msn dfibraio@xxxxxxxxxxxx skype: dfibraio personal music site: http://www.keyboardguy.com. Internet Radio station: http://www.nhbradio.com Internet radio show every Wednesday night from 8 to 11 pm eastern