Hi All, I am new to Sonar (currently waiting the arrival of my new DAW and spending much time with the CakeTalking tutorials). Back in the days of DOS, I did some extensive work with Voyetra's Sequencer Plus Gold. One of the things I loved about that program were some of the more experimental transforms for working with and editing midi data: randomizing pitches, retrograding the contents of a loop, inverting a melody so that the contour was flipped upside down - this sort of thing. I found it to be a fun way to stumble on new musical ideas I wouldn't have consciously invented. So, I'm not all the way through the CakeTalking reference materials, but have spent a fair bit of time reading, and am curious if it is possible to do these sorts of things in Sonar. I don't need the details of how spelled out - I'm far from that stage, but a pointer in the direction of the best lessons to read, or plug ins to check out, would be great. Also, is any one on the list doing active work with just intonation in Sonar? Do some of the soft synths support this? I'd love to know. Thanks much, Bill S. PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq