All, I can't attach the PDF file to this mail, but I have a copy of this Sibelius 5 Handbook that I downloaded some years ago from the Avid web site. I was trying to find some "What's New" information for Thomas, and while I did not find that, I did notice that this is a pretty handy getting started tutorial for beginners to Sibelius 5. It is not intended for the blind, but I think it's fundamental enough that any new users should read through it to learn the basics of using Sibelius 5, while using Sib-Access as our tool. So write me off-list to the address below, and I'll shoot off a reply with the attachment. It's the original PDF file from Avid web site, so I'm not violating any copyrights. dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Dave Carlson Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Thomas Böttcher" <th.bottcher@xxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 01:39 Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Cross-Posted: [sib-access] Plug-Ins for Sibelius Are there actually any other major differences between sib 3 with sibspeaking and sib 5 except for the file sharing option? Thanks in advance Cheers Thomas On 11 mrt. 2013, at 02:18, Farfar Carlson <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Tom, > > Looks like Sibelius 5.2.5 with Sib-Access is our best option now, with > possible movement to Sib 6. Current releases of Sib 7 are not slated to be > on any development for access for us. > > I think the Mac platform is limited to whatever Voiceover gives you, and > beyond that I have no experience to offer. > > Dave Carlson > Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell > Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Thomas Böttcher" <th.bottcher@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2013 11:37 > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Cross-Posted: [sib-access] Plug-Ins for Sibelius > > > Hi Dave, > I'm still using sibspeaking with windows xp and have it running on two old > windows machines and a bootcamp partition of an older mac mini > (ridiculous!!!). Is sib 5 with the scripts and plgins on your opinion a > better alternative or should I keep clinging on to what I've got? I surely > don't like the thought of working with stuff that's around ten years old > by > now and I sincerely hope that there will be a better solution on windows > or > the mac side of things in the not too far future. > Has anyone on this list heard anything about the perspective of sibelius > or > finale becoming accessible on the mac? > Cheers > Thomas > > On 10 mrt. 2013, at 05:51, "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote: > >> Sorry, but Sib 7 falls far short of being accessible. You may want to >> visit >> the web site I posted to you, and read about it. Sib 5.2.5 with >> Sib-access >> scripts is still our very best tool for producing scores. >> >> Of course you would need to purchase Sib 7 since that's the only version >> on >> the market, but then you contact Tim Burgess and discuss downgrading to >> 5.2.5. >> >> Then you're on your way! >> >> >> >> Dave Carlson >> Tastefully composed and launched near the Pacific Ocean using a Dell >> Latitude E6520, JAWS 14, and Windows 7 Professional 32-bit >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Bobbi Blood" <phantomess666@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 18:22 >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Cross-Posted: [sib-access] Plug-Ins for Sibelius >> >> >> I just *HAD* to look into this information. I bought Sibelius speaking >> quite a while back and unfortunately can't use it anymore due to the fact >> that I'm using a 64 bit system. It would be interesting to see if I >> could >> get things working with Sibelius again. Lime and lime Aloud are >> currently >> not within my budget, which is rather unfortunate, as I like the option >> of >> being able to put my compositions down on paper rather than just render >> them >> as audio. >> >> So I went to the following website, found through a Google search and it >> mentioned that there was a blog regarding the accessibility of Sib 7. >> Just >> in case you weren't aware of this, I thought I'd post it for anyone >> interested. It may be a good source of information. The scripts are >> being >> hosted here and I may consider trying them out. >> >> http://www.raisedbar.net/Sibelius/SibeliusAccessV5.htm >> >> The link is at the very bottom of the page and I still need to read more >> articles there. Does anyone have an idea just how Accessible Sibelius 7 >> is >> now by chance? >> >> Most Sincerely, >> >> Bobbi >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8@xxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2013 9:18 AM >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Cross-Posted: [sib-access] Plug-Ins for Sibelius >> >>> Yep, it has been for awhile, and 6 is in the works. >>> http://www.raisedbar.net/Sibelius/SibeliusAccessV5.htm >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> At 03:02 AM 3/9/2013, you wrote: >>>> Hmm, this is interesting. I didn't think Sib 5 was accessible to VI >>>> users? >>>> >>>> Most Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Bobbi >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Farfar Carlson" <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 12:15 PM >>>> To: "ddots List Server" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Cross-Posted: [sib-access] Plug-Ins for Sibelius >>>> >>>>> For anyone using Sibelius 5.2.5... >>>>> >>>>> IF you haven't visited this site lately, or have never done so, you're >>>>> missing out on some real helpful tools for working with Sibelius and >>>>> proofreading your work. I counted 177 plug-ins, of which I made sure >>>>> to >>>>> update the collection of 40 or more that I have installed with my copy >>>>> of >>>>> Sib 5.2.5. 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