Bryan, after having a vl plg board, I'd definitely agree with what you're saying. Although the vl board sounds awesome, i really find the fact that it takes up an entire midi channel for it extremely problematic. Roland's srx expansion cards, for example, don't interact with the synth that way at all. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Smart To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2010 8:40 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds You don't really want them. They don't add other sounds to the Motif. They're basically like self-contained synths. It is like you just put another synthesizer in the Motif and hard wired their outputs together. The FM and analog boards only can be used for 1 sound each at a time, and they don't show up on the first 16 channels that the internal sequencer can access. The XG board can do 16 channels at once, but it, also, is like a separate synth. It can't use any of the Motif's effects (except the master effect). It is also hard to access from the internal sequencer. That stuff isn't worth your time unless you just really enjoy a technical struggle. That's mostly why they were dropped in the XS. Difficult to use, and they don't integrate well with the Motif. Bryan -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:12 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds The best thing is to keep an eye out on ebay for that obsolete stuff. Also, Guitar Center has a used section on their website where they get things randomly. ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:08 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds O man, i've been trying to get an xg board, the fm board and that kind of stuff, no where to be found! D!J!X! ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:01 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds not that i'm aware of. I suppose motifator.com would have them if there are any. Also, wasn't there a plg board for the es that contained orchestral sounds? ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:55 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds Are there any string libraries for the motif es? Cuz the factory stuff doesn't cut it for me... D!J!X! ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 7:54 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds The only thing I do with it is use the sounds. You don't have access to any parameters, and even for sounds, you need sighted help to copy the presets into sonar and save them. Otherwise, you can't access them. I feel that unless you use a synth like Vienna, hardware boards are still the best sounding for strings, brasses, and woodwinds. I know that's not what we'd like to acknowledge, and I know that we'd all like to get into as much softsynths as possible, but honestly, I haven't heard anything satisfactory in the realm of virtual that can match a hardware synth like the motif or a roland synth for the instruments I mentioned above, except for the Vienna stuff. ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 4:04 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds I'm assuming you've got this synth? How much of it can you access with jaws? D!J!X! ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 3:44 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds I think he meant the 1gb free one from eastwest. colossis is definitely not a loser. it's great. ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 2:19 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds Colossis is the loser? If so, why? D!J!X! ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Kent Sent: Saturday, April 03, 2010 12:58 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds I tried it and it was a loser. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: D!J!X! <mailto:megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:40 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds Hey does anybody remember that free synth that east west was giving out, it was about 1gb or so download, was it that colossis? D!J!X! ________________________________ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:29 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Omnisphere sounds Bryan, I personally wouldn't recommend either atmosphere or omnisphere for great, natural-sounding, woodwind, string, brass, or other natural instruments. I would label them as average at best. Just my opinion, though. A better synth for that kind of stuff is EastWest's colossis. The only drawback to that is that you need sighted help to copy and paste the presets into sonar. Otherwise, it isn't accessible. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bryan Smart <mailto:bryansmart@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 7:15 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Omnisphere sounds All of you people using Omnisphere, what is your opinion of the sound quality in terms of bread and butter sounds? All of the demos that I've found are full of amazingly pulsing, throbbing, morphing, arpeggiating, swirling textures and synth tambers. That sounds great for creating atmospherics, or for scoring television action shows. However, how well does Omnisphere serve as a general purpose go-to instrument? For example, I have lots of plugs if I want drums, pianos, electric pianos, guitars, and synths. However, when the odd situation comes up, and I need a sax, a ukulele, a harpsichord, or a sitar, I need a general purpose synth to go to. I've used various things for that over the years, but I'm now in a spot where the old stuff like Hypersonic isn't available anymore on Win 7, and I'm trying not to use hardware synths anymore, so can't just track in something from one of those. So, how do you rate it for general purpose sounds? Bryan PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type unsubscribe For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the immediately following link: ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq or send a message, to ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and in the Subject line type faq PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! 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