Hey Cameron! I know this sounds crazy, and I know what you mean when you say nothing actually happens when you press ALT down arrow... The solution is to tab until you hear presets, and when you do, cursor down until the list appears! Sometimes, you have to tab around again, but believe me, the little buggers are in there, you just gotta be a little patient! I discovered them completely by accident, and, you should too! phew! Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Cameron Strife To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:03 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: No plug in presets in sonar 5! again. Alt plus down arrow makes no difference. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of HF Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 6:02 PM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: No plug in presets in sonar 5! again. Alt+down arrow to open all pre-set lists in Sonar. HF ----- Original Message ----- From: Cameron Strife To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2006 12:52 PM Subject: [ddots-l] No plug in presets in sonar 5! again. Hello all. I've had this happen with two machines at work and now the same thing is happening with my home machine! I haven't mixed a track in sonar 5 yet. Today was the first time I was doing it. Or, was going to do it. However, when I went through my sixty or so plug ins, picking a ton at random to be sure, there are no presets! In any of them! Aaahhhhrrgg! WTF! I'm talking about everything from the cake walk to the sonitus effects to my waves and my freeware plugs etc. What in god's name is going on here! This is such a waste of time. Why is it that when I open sound forge, the presets are there. But they aren't in sonar. God I wish I still had outboard rack gear sometimes! Any help would be greatly appreciated. And before someone says it, yes, I've tried to open the zero items combo boxes a few ways. No luck at all. Thanks, Cameron. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.18/584 - Release Date: 12/12/2006