[ddots-l] Re: Good advice and/or articles or information on the best ways to set up multiple headphones.

Hi,

Like Joey was saying, if you can afford those headphone system which players 
can setup their own mixes up to 8 channels including volume, muting, and 
panning, that's the way to go.
  My school studios use them, and I've been recording at commercial studios 
with those systems, and everybody's happy. No more complaint about mix.

  Chi
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Gordon Kent 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:07 PM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good advice and/or articles or information on the best 
ways to set up multiple headphones.


  Laurie:
  If you turned the appropriate aux send down completely and were truly plugged 
into your headphone amp from that send, there is no way that they should have 
heard anything from that channel.  Make sure that the sends you are using are 
set for pre fader.  I will say this though, and please don't take this the 
wrong way.  If musicians are acting that fussy about what they are hearing, it 
usually indicates that they are not really sure of themselves in the studio.  I 
haven't messed with separate cue mixes in a long time.  With the exception of a 
couple of weeks ago in a live situation at church, where the drummer and I were 
playing along to a click so I had to set up a separate cue mix with the click 
and programmed bass etc. along with my keyboard that I was playing live.  
  Gord

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Laurie Simpson 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:11 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Good advice and/or articles or information on the best 
ways to set up multiple headphones.


    Hi guys,



    Let me try to explain my subject a bit better.  I just recently recorded 5 
people in a recording setup for a cd.  I have a Mackie Onyx 1620 mixer.  I have 
an Oz HR-4 headphone amp.  I went from the aux sends on the mixer to the inputs 
on the HR-4 for 4 of the people and used the mixer's headphone internal amp for 
the fifth person.  In general this setup worked but there were a number of 
times when it was frustrating.  I would be told that some particular part was 
too loud so I would go and turn down that person's aux send on the offending 
channel.  The y would continue to say that the part was too loud and I had 
turned the aux send down as far as it would go.  I didn't want to turn down the 
master aux send for their headphones because that would turn down every part.  
So I would end up turning down the gain which would also turn down the signal 
going into the sound card.  I find that the gain is what gives volume for the 
aux sends, not the level slider at the bottom of each channel.  I can leave 
those completely off and the sends still work.  For the person using the 
headphone amp in the mixer itself, I muxt use the level sliders but that was 
never a problem.  Is there any clear detailed information out there describing 
possible ways to setup mixes for musicians or vocalists being recorded?  I know 
that it's been discussed here sometimes to assign tracks to different busses, 
but how do you do that and have everyone hear all tracks, or some people only 
to hear certain ones?  Also I was asked if there was a way to play the rhythm 
track only for one person and not for everyone else.  Of course this was the 
person who was plugged into the mixer's headphone amp.



    Any advice or pointers would be greatly appreciated.  Pleas feel free to 
discourse at length.  I'd like as much help as possible.



    Thanks!



    Laurie

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