[ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring

Agreed!  And  a little more.  Note the words, "having a peak and fine 
attenuation reading" 

An ultrasonic flaw detection system automatically measures attenuation of an 
input signal from a receiver transducer that provides a reference level. 
Successive
amplifier stages having stepped gains provide graduated output levels that are 
detected and stored by individual peak readers. Sampled output levels are
compared in comparators and with a reference voltage generated by a 
digital-to-analog converter to produce a binary output corresponding to each 
signal
as a first coarse attenuation level. Logic control and timing circuitry selects 
the output level corresponding to one of the signals having a peak voltage
in a predetermined range. A logarithmic converter and comparator provide a fine 
attenuation reading which is summed with the coarse reading in digital
form. This is decoded and displayed as a total attenuation readout. 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Slau 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 8:13 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring


  Just a little clarification:
  attenuation actually means to decrease the power or strength of something. 
While the result might clarify, the spcific function of attenuation is to 
diminish the strength of the source.

  cheers.

    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Omar Binno 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:28 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring


    Gotch ya. Thanks. So having said that, should I be able to determine the 
peak level from the meters within sonar then, or are you refering to peak 
levels on the mixing board itself which would require sighted assistance?

    Thanks a bunch Sean.


    Omar Binno

    www.omarbinno.com
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sean A. Cummins 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 10:25 AM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring


      OK Omar,  here goes

      All mixing consuls, channel strips have what is called an "operational 
Amplifier" at their beginning stages for the initial signal  boost.  This is 
for "attenuation" wrongly called "gain".  "Gain"is misleading nomenclature.  
The word "attenuation" means "to make clear", and does not necessarily equate 
to "gain". Most "would be" engineers will use the "gain"knob at the top of a 
mixer to boot, or cut their volume levels of their mix.  The "gain" knob is 
supposed to "attenuate" your signal and not be used as a volume control.  Once 
the "peek" volume is achieved, with out clip, then the process of "attenuation" 
is complete and should not be changed, unless there is a new "peek" volume 
introduced to the (OpAmp); e.g. the drummer has a cup of coffee from Starbucks 
and he/she is now beating-the-heck out of the same drum. LOL!

      Hope this helps.

      Sean




        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Omar Binno 
        To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
        Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 6:13 AM
        Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring


        Thanks Sean. Can you elaborate on what you said in the following: 
"Also, when setting your Allan And Heath channel clip level, once it is 
attenuated at the input
        stage of the operational amplifier, (OpAmp),  you shouldn't have to 
change it ever again.  This should always remain a constant."

        Omar Binno

        www.omarbinno.com
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: Sean A. Cummins 
          To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 9:08 AM
          Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 808 kicks distoring


          Omar,

          Use your direct out from each of the individual channels, rather then 
the sends, unless your having to sub mix your drums, but, you should be sub 
mixing internally with Sonar.  This way you will eliminate some electronic hum 
because of less circuitry for the signal to have passed through before being 
sent to your DAW; likewise, reducing the chance for distortion.  Also, when 
setting your Allan And Heath channel clip level, once it is attenuated at the 
input stage of the operational amplifier, (OpAmp),  you shouldn't have to 
change it ever again.  This should always remain a constant. 

            Take Care,

            Sean


            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Omar Binno 
            To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
            Sent: Monday, August 04, 2008 5:40 AM
            Subject: [ddots-l] 808 kicks distoring


            Hello,

            I'm using an Edirol FA66 with an Allan And Heath mixer. The FA66 is 
connected via the sends and returns of the mixer. I have some samples of basey 
808 kicks that I play either through the sfz sampler, or through the dr008 
synth. Some of the 808's tend to distort when I play them. Oddly, this wasn't 
happening with my Mackie 1604 while using the same drums, and i had the same 
type of connection with the Mackie. Any thoughts or suggestions?


            Omar Binno

            www.omarbinno.com

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