[cryptome] Re: Microsoft and the NSA

  • From: professor rat <pro2rat@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 02:24:31 -0700 (PDT)

I think that now we have the net we can safely dispose of the state. I would 
phase out the warfare side first though as I'm not a Libertarian.


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 From: Gary Wallin <garylwallin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, 19 July 2013 10:02 PM
Subject: [cryptome] Re: Microsoft and the NSA
 

On 7/18/2013 7:59 PM, John Young wrote:
> ...its greatest enemy is its hyper-paranoia.
>
> National security is not about protecting the nation, its aim
> is to generate fear of its inevitable failure.
John, perhaps you are too pessimistic. I don't like the panopticon or 
the surveillance state. But with 7 billion people on the planet and the 
inglorious history of human nature, parts of the security programs may 
be needed. I would prefer that people prevent abuses of the National 
Security state and surveillance, rather than calling for its abolition.

Constructive criticism is needed and pointed questions must be raised. 
But in the end, it is not the nature of the State that is our primary 
concern; it is human nature itself. But both the behavior of both the 
State and the People give reasons for great concern.

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