Please remove me from your list. Lloyd & Valentine LeCain -----Original Message----- From: cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:cryptome-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JIM DRINKHALL Sent: July 26, 2013 13:49 To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [cryptome] remove me On Jul 26, 2013, at 2:26 AM, Ben McGinnes <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: On 22/07/13 2:31 AM, professor rat wrote: " We did it because we loved you " - Markus Wolf, East German KGB head "We, the Government, have vital information which we cannot disclose. It is upon this knowledge that we make decisions. You, who are merely private citizens, have not access to this information. Any criticism you make of our policy, any controversy about it in which you may indulge will therefore be uninformed and valueless. If, in spite of your ignorance, you persist in questioning our policy, we can only conclude that you are disloyal." Harold Thorby, Australia's defence minister in 1938 "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY." --Goering And my favourite (source): "The Official Secrets Act isn't to protect secrets, Bernard, it's to protect officials!" -- Sir Humphrey Appleby, _Yes, Minister_ Regards, Ben Jim Drinkhall drinkhall@xxxxxxxxxxx