That's true, it has a sense of "own". :/ Perhaps Sap isn't overthinking it. Lol. On 17 Nov 2014 14:13, "sameegh jardine" <sameegh@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > My 2c. > > I think a change of scenery is always refreshing. Jeeva's is awesome for > sustaining out existing routine which is pretty comfortable but doesn't > provide great exposure or visibility. I'm comfortable with either as a > session venue though. > > I do think whatever venue we choose, it'd be better if there was a default > option. Based on what we've seen in the past, we know that many of us don't > do well with coordination. What's nice about the current setup is that > anyone can simply rock up on a Saturday and not have to ask where the > session is going to be, unless there's a tournament somewhere (once in a > blue moon). > > > > On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < > nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> OK, cool. >> I understand where you're coming from. >> On 17 Nov 2014 13:48, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> That's all fine and good. I've already mentioned that I have no issues >>> with him building up the college and prioritising that. But I'm still >>> paying to use the venue. If I was there for free, I wouldn't say anything. >>> >>> You don't have to be a 'good communicator' to communicate. It's got >>> nothing to do with being eloquent or being professional; it has everything >>> to do with being open and honest. Things are happening there that is not >>> being communicated. Jeeva CAN communicate the changes but CHOOSES not to. I >>> refer to 'selective' communication yet again. If it suits him, he'll inform >>> you about it. If you don't need to know, you won't hear from him. If you >>> don't agree, I accept that, but I'm just going according to what I >>> experienced this past Saturday, and I wasn't the only one. >>> >>> I'm not saying I'm ungrateful for what he's done and for allowing us to >>> use his venue and facilities, and I agree that we are fortunate to have >>> what we have, but I'm not the biggest fan of being left in the dark about >>> everything that is happening there now. >>> >>> So look. We can continue to do what we do there and put up with having >>> to 'keep quiet' when it suits Jeeva and wait for the next change to happen >>> that might not even be communicated, as long as it's what everyone wants >>> collectively. I just want people to be able to enjoy themselves and make >>> the most of the day. If that's not happening, damn straight I'm going to >>> look elsewhere. >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Nicholas Robertson-Muir < >>> nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> You're overthinking this. >>>> Take it easy before you stroke out. >>>> >>>> Jeeva has been busy building up the college, his prioroties lie there. >>>> That makes us no2, Jeeves isn't the best at communicating or >>>> multitasking. At least, that's what I'm assuming/speculating. >>>> >>>> I've never seen myself as a paying customer and therefore never expect >>>> service delivery. >>>> For me it has always been more along the lines of, we get to use the >>>> venue, here's a little something for your trouble. >>>> >>>> I think we are really fortunate to have what we have already. >>>> I'm mostly thankful for just that. >>>> On 17 Nov 2014 13:11, "Ryan Williams" <ryan820509@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>>> If Jeeva honestly feels that we've overstayed our welcome, it wouldn't >>>>> offend me if he just said so *lol* Just be honest and say "Listen guys, >>>>> unfortunately I won't be able to accommodate you anymore because I'm >>>>> looking to take things in a different direction". I wouldn't have a >>>>> problem >>>>> with that because you were up front with me about what's happening. >>>>> Leaving >>>>> things open to interpretation, on the other hand, is a very dangerous >>>>> thing. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:59 PM, Sean Carrington < >>>>> theseancarrington@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm all for Kamimodo as well (not just cuz of it's proximity lol). >>>>>> Like Ashraf said it has that Gecco vibe to it that was really cool >>>>>> back in the days, and it's a more gaming friendly place IMO. >>>>>> Not to mention there's a bigger probability to attrack more gamers >>>>>> there... well i think. >>>>>> >>>>>> I wouldn't know about how Jeeva feels but should it really be the >>>>>> case that we've overstayed our welcome, it's only natural. >>>>>> We've been there for quite a long time so it wouldn't be a surprise. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm down with Kamimodo if the rates are fair enough for everyon :) >>>>>> #MovingON >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 12:42 PM, lindsey kiviets < >>>>>> lindseyak@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I like this idea the most. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you nick. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 12:32:47 +0200 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: CTS community mail >>>>>>> From: nicmuir@xxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> To: cpt-fgc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I dunno what to say about Jeeva. >>>>>>> I know this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> He wants us there. He won't want us to leave. He lacks >>>>>>> communication. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's what I have to say. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I like Kamimodo, but Jeeva's is nearer. >>>>>>> Jeeva is lighter on the pocket, but we have to deal with bs. >>>>>>> Kamimodo is more expensive, but the exposure is awesome. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my opinion, the best way to deal with this diplomatically, would >>>>>>> be to ask Jeeva if there will be any meetings and shit in the week, and >>>>>>> then relocate for that weekend. >>>>>>> If there's no-one at Jeevas, have a session there instead. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That way, we can keep the communication on the level, and let both >>>>>>> parties know how we operate. >>>>>>> Whoever needs us the most, will make the most effort. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>> >